Part ex Daytona for AP

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As per the title.

I bought a Rolex Daytona earlier in the year and although its a nice watch feel its just a tiny bit 'common'. I seem to see one on every other wrist, especially on women.

Ideally I'd like to part exchange it for a AP Royal Oak ref. 15300. Any idea as to what I'd be offered. It's two years old and in super condition.

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About 9k, not many about it seems.

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Whilst I'm keen on the AP it may take a while for the right one to come up. I've also considered the VC overseas models but I'm hesitant to buy into the Richemont group again. Any suggestions other than say a Nautilus?

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freshkid said:

Are you only interested in new looking watches? Does it have to be in the Daytona, AP, Nautilus recognisable at a glance status symbol bracket?

I'm idly hunting for a perfectly battered and faded Submariner at the moment as blingy new stuff is a bit boring and I'm not into moon-phase wrist clocks and the like.

They're not really status symbols though are they? I'd wager that any sub (battered or not) would be more recognisable than an AP RO/PP Nautilus. Additionally I'd suggest that watches and cars are no longer always signifiers of success/riches, any body can pick up them up on the drip nowadays.

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freshkid said:

I don't think you can escape the fact that any luxury watch acts as a status symbol. It doesn't matter how you financed it.

I hear what you're saying about subs being more widely recognised, but to be honest if it's not too shiny most people won't even notice it.

Thats kind of the point though. The 'status' is considerably diminished when one can walk into a high street retailer and buy an expensive watch on 0% finance. The same goes for high end cars. Luxury goods have never been more accessible or affordable, I'd go so far as to say this part of the market has been thoroughly democratised over the last few years. All good in my opinion, keeps sales up and manufacturers in business.

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el stovey said:

Ah the old problem of wanting a watch to show off.

You need it to look recognisable to those you're trying to impress but what do you do when the other people wanting a watch to show off all have the same watch as you?

You have to get a slightly less recognisable watch but one that still looks conspicuous to your target audience.

You're quite correct. Manufacturers are missing a trick here. There is a dearth of suitably expensive everyday steel sports watches on the market. Quite frustrating really.

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bobbybee said:

I've bought all my high(ish) 'on the drip' interest free drip, although I could have easily afforded each one outright.
I mean why had over all the cash in one go? When it is to your advantage to keep the bulk in an interest bearing account. Over time and thanks to the interest the watch is bought for less in real terms

Sure, a discount is a discount. But with regard to 'status symbols', I guess what I mean is that I don't see someone wearing a Rolex and think 'he must be a super successful top dog', I just see a nice watch that can be bought from high street retailers the world over.

Personally I do think the AP RO is a nice looking watch, beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all. Ideally I'd like the 15202 but I'm not sure about the extra cost for the ultra thin movement.

Also the Warren Buffet comparison is slightly irrelevant. He probably isn't into watches and as GregF40 has pointed out he seems to wear a solid gold watch and not a Casio! Also as I've already mentioned, the watch a person chooses to wear can bear little or no relation to how well they're doing / how rich they are.

Edited by poocherama on Wednesday 25th November 12:14

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longblackcoat said:

I've got a number of reasonably valuable (£5k+) vintage watches and love the fact that no-one realises that any of them are worth more than a fiver and they raise interest only from other watch-lovers.

The idea of a watch bellowing "LOOK AT ME, I'M VALUABLE" just repulses me and I'd be thoroughly embarrassed to wear an AP of any type. The idea of buying one because it's supposedly classier than a Daytona seems daft. Buy you if you want one, sure, but for that reason only, not for bling points.

I've already got the vintage watch, a 1968 Omega SM300, which I love. I also have the understated JLC base covered although I still think it looks pretty expensive.

I bought the Daytona as its one of those watches that if you're into them, I think one should own at some point. I'm just not overly enamoured with it. Saying that I may well decide to keep it, could be a great gift for on of my children down the line.

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Thanks for the replies chaps.

I am indeed relatively young, under 40 anyway!

I'm planning on trying a couple variations of the AP's this week to see how they feel. I really like your Rolex Sealtt, saw a guy wearing a similar one on holiday this year and thought it looked the business, probably a bit much for me though.

I also like the day date though I feel I've only a few years to wear the 'younger' watches and plenty of time for the classics.

That said I may well wait a while longer and just jump straight up to the PP 5711...

Edited by poocherama on Monday 30th November 14:43

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david hockney said:

Although the Day Date is often seen as an old mans watch I think that's what makes it look good on young folk.
I mean- Kate Moss looks cool as hell driving her vintage Rolls Royce....Michael Winner didn't.
I am 41 yrs old.

I get what you're saying and it is a nice watch, but at 36mm (second hand) a bit small for my tastes at the moment. I see they do a 40 now but somewhat out of my price range.