Choosing a TAG
Discussion
Hi,
I have had a bit of inheritance money and would like to buy myself a Tag with some of it.
I'm looking around the £4k mark and was considering the Carrera Calibre 1887 Chrono.
Could anyone recommend a different Tag for around the similar money as I'm a bit undecided?
Before anyone asks, the reason why I am choosing a Tag is because I can get a good discount on them.
Thanks in advance.
I have had a bit of inheritance money and would like to buy myself a Tag with some of it.
I'm looking around the £4k mark and was considering the Carrera Calibre 1887 Chrono.
Could anyone recommend a different Tag for around the similar money as I'm a bit undecided?
Before anyone asks, the reason why I am choosing a Tag is because I can get a good discount on them.
Thanks in advance.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Composite Guru said:
Not really the response I was looking for.
Why are they so bad compared to other manufacturers?
Because PH. The main bone of contention seems to be the use of movement that is readily available in much cheaper watches, which is fair enough if that interests you but for a great many watch buyers it of course don't make much difference.Why are they so bad compared to other manufacturers?
It's too simple to liken it to a lotus using a cheap toyota engine, but I suspect a great many of TAG's detractors wear items of designer clothes that pour out the same factory and are cut from the same cloth as a great many cheaper items (the same factory that produces both Armani and Top Shop's jeans for example).
Then add in a little snobbery, a little reverse snobbery (that also affects Rolex to some degree on watch forums) a repositioning of the brand's price point and the strange phenomenon that if something's popular it's now "uncool" (on an internet forum full of watch geeks-perhaps not the finest barometer of cool!) and you have the TAG-factor.
What people forget is TAG's history which really can't be denied nowadays. Heuer has serious history but TAG has had great links with motorsport over the years and I can only see it being more so in the coming years.
If you like a TAG Heuer, you like it and it's as simple as that.
The watch I was looking at buying has a proper chrono auto movement in it so not an average quartz jobbie. I thought that would be specifically made by them fpr that watch surely?
I'm confused by the whole thing really.
NeMiSiS said:
If you're confused, don't dive in, there are people here who are well up on Heures and will give you advice.
There are also people who know an in house movement TAG Heure from an ETA, they will be along shortly.
I'm not planning to jump in too fast, I want to buy the right watch. There are also people who know an in house movement TAG Heure from an ETA, they will be along shortly.
I'll wait for more info. Cheers
webby23 said:
I'd sooner have a watch on my wrist that I liked, as opposed to having one that maybe I didn't like but was recommended to me by people I'd never met.
If you like TAGs, buy one, it's your money and they are great looking watches on the whole.
I do like them but its inheritance money I don't want to waste on an overpriced POS. Yes its a discounted price but I still want something with some value in it after a few years. If you like TAGs, buy one, it's your money and they are great looking watches on the whole.
Polariz said:
In my experience yes there are plenty of people who will tell you what to do and a lot of it is rubbish. However there is truth in that if you "invest" (if that's the right word) your cash in a Rolex for instance, that money is pretty safe, and buying a Tag is going to lose you money (there are obviously lots of exceptions to this). The bottom line is, if you're going to keep it the rest of your life (Like I will with my Monaco Calibre 12) then the value bit is pretty irrelevant.
If you're going Tag, I would go Monaco personally - mainly because it's so unique and it was apparently the first square cased Chronograph. With it's history and links to McQueen and what not, people tend to forget all about the movement argument. I paid £2400 for a mint 2014 example pre-owned and it's never missed a beat.
Thanks, that's a good input. If you're going Tag, I would go Monaco personally - mainly because it's so unique and it was apparently the first square cased Chronograph. With it's history and links to McQueen and what not, people tend to forget all about the movement argument. I paid £2400 for a mint 2014 example pre-owned and it's never missed a beat.
h0b0 said:
Most people have an issue with Tag using ETA, or quartz, movements in watches with high prices. A lot of other manufacturers have done the same but not to the extent of Tag. I have a Tag and an IWC. The IWC is my everyday watch and the Tag is my special occasion watch. Why? It turns out that some of the Tags come out with good movements. The Calibre 36 is the El Primero movement from Zenith.
You could get one of these in your budget, so if it had to be Tag it's where my money would go.
FYI, the 1887 is considered an in house movement but has questionable origins. It is a, good quality, Seiko movement that has been adapted for Tag. They bought the IP so Seiko can not sell it to others anymore. Most other movements are ETA (Swatch) which is in line with the industry.
Nemesis has a point though, Tag do not have a good perception in the watch collector circles because they are considered to have "sold out". For this reason they can not be seen as an investment like a Rolex can.
Thanks for that, I like your Calibre 36 but that may be a little out of my price range. Will have a look though. You could get one of these in your budget, so if it had to be Tag it's where my money would go.
FYI, the 1887 is considered an in house movement but has questionable origins. It is a, good quality, Seiko movement that has been adapted for Tag. They bought the IP so Seiko can not sell it to others anymore. Most other movements are ETA (Swatch) which is in line with the industry.
Nemesis has a point though, Tag do not have a good perception in the watch collector circles because they are considered to have "sold out". For this reason they can not be seen as an investment like a Rolex can.
Thanks for the replies.
I think I'm going to have to go for a wander around some quality watch shops and have a play with some different marques.
Yes, I primarily started looking at Tag as I've always like them and how have chance to buy one with a bit of money off. As some say though, that shouldn't really be the primary reason for buying a watch so I think I have to go out there and actually find what I want rather than just sectioning off to one brand.
I don't actually have the money yet so I have plenty of time to think and decide. At least I know a bit more about the Tag brand and can put that knowledge into my future choice.
I think I'm going to have to go for a wander around some quality watch shops and have a play with some different marques.
Yes, I primarily started looking at Tag as I've always like them and how have chance to buy one with a bit of money off. As some say though, that shouldn't really be the primary reason for buying a watch so I think I have to go out there and actually find what I want rather than just sectioning off to one brand.
I don't actually have the money yet so I have plenty of time to think and decide. At least I know a bit more about the Tag brand and can put that knowledge into my future choice.
mikeveal said:
It's not that TAG make bad watches. They don't, their stuff is OK.
It's not the fact that they use ETA. Most of the players in that price bracket do that too (Omega, Cartier, Tudor, Hamilton, Ball, etc etc.)
It is about value for money. £ for £, other brands deliver a better finish. It's a very subjective thing, but there seems to be consensus amongst watchies that generally the feel and finish of TAGs does not compare well with other brands at the same price point. There are exceptions, e.g. the stuff with the Cal 36.
That said, if you have your heart set on a particular model from their range, you've looked objectively at the competition and you still prefer that model, then go for it. They are not bad watches by any means. You know what you're getting and have made an informed, level headed choice. Damned if I pay any attention to what other people think I should buy/wear.
If however you're buying the badge " 'cus it's a TAG innit "...
No, I'm not buying only for the badge. I'm no chav either. It's not the fact that they use ETA. Most of the players in that price bracket do that too (Omega, Cartier, Tudor, Hamilton, Ball, etc etc.)
It is about value for money. £ for £, other brands deliver a better finish. It's a very subjective thing, but there seems to be consensus amongst watchies that generally the feel and finish of TAGs does not compare well with other brands at the same price point. There are exceptions, e.g. the stuff with the Cal 36.
That said, if you have your heart set on a particular model from their range, you've looked objectively at the competition and you still prefer that model, then go for it. They are not bad watches by any means. You know what you're getting and have made an informed, level headed choice. Damned if I pay any attention to what other people think I should buy/wear.
If however you're buying the badge " 'cus it's a TAG innit "...
Kierkegaard said:
To liken it to the car world.
(All IMHO of course)
TAG Heuer is like Audi. It has the 'name', a few past successes - 4wdQuattro/HeuerMonaco, and you can buy some expensive Audis and TAGs. But generally you're paying for a flashy sheen over an ordinary machine with cheaper, borrowed parts (VAG/ETA).
Whereas BMW I liken to Omega - popular, wide range, 'pseudo-ish-poshness' and generally good quality.
And Mercedes is Rolex - expensive, wide range of established models and good quality.
That ought to get a bit of a reaction !
Nice analogy. I like it. (All IMHO of course)
TAG Heuer is like Audi. It has the 'name', a few past successes - 4wdQuattro/HeuerMonaco, and you can buy some expensive Audis and TAGs. But generally you're paying for a flashy sheen over an ordinary machine with cheaper, borrowed parts (VAG/ETA).
Whereas BMW I liken to Omega - popular, wide range, 'pseudo-ish-poshness' and generally good quality.
And Mercedes is Rolex - expensive, wide range of established models and good quality.
That ought to get a bit of a reaction !
T6 vanman said:
Composite Guru said:
I was looking through the Monaco range and liked the look of this one.
Shall I duck for cover?
To add my two pence to the thread,Shall I duck for cover?
Think how & where you will wear this watch,
For best occasions, Weekends & Pub or as a daily?
I've had to deflect the "is it a genuine" question of my Breitling with "yes where I got it from said you can tell its genuine by the off square links on the bracelet" ..... It wasn't worn there again...!
Will it be a keeper or will you want some investment potential,
I posted a fortnight ago a what watch question and ultimately bought a left field U-Boat that has probably lost 50% of it's value, but as its a 50th present and a keeper this is immaterial to me, I assume as it's an inheritance this may be similar in your circumstances.
I'd duck for cover with that monstrosity but that's the great thing about each of us, our individuality and if you have slept on your thoughts and came back thinking this is the one then go for it. (lets be honest 95% wouldn't want a U-Boat)
At your budget the world is your oyster and you will not please everyone with your choice but enjoy it
webby23 said:
Moley RUFC said:
OP I would say go for it. I've just reserved one of these from Beaverbrooks http://m.tagheuer.co.uk/int-en/news/tag-heuer-form... because I want it. I've ordered it with the NATO strap as it completes the look.
The stripes on the watch don't match his overalls lolComposite Guru said:
T6 vanman said:
Composite Guru said:
I was looking through the Monaco range and liked the look of this one.
Shall I duck for cover?
To add my two pence to the thread,Shall I duck for cover?
Think how & where you will wear this watch,
For best occasions, Weekends & Pub or as a daily?
I've had to deflect the "is it a genuine" question of my Breitling with "yes where I got it from said you can tell its genuine by the off square links on the bracelet" ..... It wasn't worn there again...!
Will it be a keeper or will you want some investment potential,
I posted a fortnight ago a what watch question and ultimately bought a left field U-Boat that has probably lost 50% of it's value, but as its a 50th present and a keeper this is immaterial to me, I assume as it's an inheritance this may be similar in your circumstances.
I'd duck for cover with that monstrosity but that's the great thing about each of us, our individuality and if you have slept on your thoughts and came back thinking this is the one then go for it. (lets be honest 95% wouldn't want a U-Boat)
At your budget the world is your oyster and you will not please everyone with your choice but enjoy it
michael gould said:
i did buy a new Pebble watch for £140........ complete waste of money .....a bit like a new TAG ......but if OP really needs one then there is outlet village TAG shop near me on the Wirral that flogs them off with 50% discount ...at least then you are only paying double what they are worth and not 4X
Don't worry, I'm getting a good discount.. 
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