British air kills since 1945

British air kills since 1945

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Catching up with News this morning on my way in to work, and picked up the following from a Sky News article about the new carriers;

To understand the true value of an aircraft carrier in conflict, consider that every enemy aircraft shot down by the British since 1945, except one, has been by a carrier-based plane.

I'm intrigued, and somewhat limited for google-searching time - does anyone know what was that non-carrier based kill?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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TEKNOPUG said:
Carriers are all about force projection. All our major land bases are closer to home and therefore far less likely to encounter hostile aircraft. Akrotiri is the obvious exception but neither Libya nor any of the ME countries we have flown operations in, put up any aerial threat. If you want to engage forces far from home, carriers are vital. Hence why they have been the mainstay of the US, UK and French navies. If you have a carrier force, you have the potential to bring to military force to anywhere in the world. They've been of less importance to Russia and China as they have such huge land borders, they control their local geospheres from their own land bases - they don't have colonies or direct interests all over the globe.
In my experience carriers are all about fckiung people around for the sake of keeping them busy, cherishing the memory of Nelson and throwing corruption-riddled cocktail parties.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
In my experience carriers are all about fckiung people around for the sake of keeping them busy, cherishing the memory of Nelson and throwing corruption-riddled cocktail parties.
Really?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
Crossflow Kid said:
In my experience carriers are all about fckiung people around for the sake of keeping them busy, cherishing the memory of Nelson and throwing corruption-riddled cocktail parties.
Really?
Yep, pretty much.
Maritime aviation wasn't top of the list that's for sure. I'm not convinced it was even in the top five some days.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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You all know the detail it's incredible only one kill since 1945 has been from an airfield. I would never have thought that, plus 1945 is still early days after WW2 we had airstrips all over the place!
It' must be one of those staggering facts.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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True, but from as early as 1945? It gives the reason for the 60's-90's abandonment of the UK WW2 airfields - they just weren't needed!

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
9 August 1952, Lt Cdr 'Hoagy' Carmichael, while flying a Sea Fury, shot down a MiG 15.
When he was flying from HMS Ocean, no?


anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I had thought about the ground-based missile kill as a possibility, but I'm more then certain that the Rapiers downed multiple aircraft during the Falklands conflict, so had concluded the Sky chap was indeed referring to a singular kill by an RAF plane that had taken off from a ground base.

So if it wasn't the Phantom/Jag incident, what was it?