Help for another sail boat dreamer.
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We have been looking at a villa somewhere in Greece or Spain to live in most of the year, however i have started to wonder about a sail boat.
I have no knowledge of these things but am sensible enough to know that a good level of training and accompanied sailing would be a good idea before i sail off into the sunset.
That said what would be the mnimum size boat required for safely crossing seas to explore Spain,Greece, Italy etc? and what kind of automation can be used to make it more manageable (my wife is more the dainty painting of toenails in a sunhat kind of lass, not the kind to winch up a sail).
Im thinking a sailboat would have cheaper running costs than a motorboat as no fuel required if enough wind, and seeing as we wouldnt NEED to ge be anywhere could wait a while to minimise engine usage.
Im sure a lot of this has caused a few of you seasoned seagoers to shake your head and assume i will die but bear with me please and I'll do my best to learn and take advice onboard.
I have no knowledge of these things but am sensible enough to know that a good level of training and accompanied sailing would be a good idea before i sail off into the sunset.
That said what would be the mnimum size boat required for safely crossing seas to explore Spain,Greece, Italy etc? and what kind of automation can be used to make it more manageable (my wife is more the dainty painting of toenails in a sunhat kind of lass, not the kind to winch up a sail).
Im thinking a sailboat would have cheaper running costs than a motorboat as no fuel required if enough wind, and seeing as we wouldnt NEED to ge be anywhere could wait a while to minimise engine usage.
Im sure a lot of this has caused a few of you seasoned seagoers to shake your head and assume i will die but bear with me please and I'll do my best to learn and take advice onboard.
What about something like this http://www.clippermarine.co.uk/new-boats/bavaria-y... would this be suitable for a live aboard which could travel across open sea?
Seems like it would cost less than a villa, at least to buy!
Seems like it would cost less than a villa, at least to buy!
Sorry let me clarify, im in my late 30's and will be looking to retire in about 10 years. If i go down this route then i would be looking to buy anywhere in 5-10 years time so giving myself time to hire a boat for a month or so, take some quality training and maybe even work on a boat anything basically in order to be safe.
I dont have a bottomless pit of money so would just like to know if this is something worth persuing or not.
Is the Bavaria 46 a good size of boat for what i am after, should i be looking for bigger, would i be able to anchor in a bay instead of taking into a harbour, and what would the typical maintenance/running costs be.
I am not saying i would buy the Bavaria, only asking about the size.
I dont have a bottomless pit of money so would just like to know if this is something worth persuing or not.
Is the Bavaria 46 a good size of boat for what i am after, should i be looking for bigger, would i be able to anchor in a bay instead of taking into a harbour, and what would the typical maintenance/running costs be.
I am not saying i would buy the Bavaria, only asking about the size.
It could be worse, even if the boat doesnt happen i will be lucky enough to be able to retire in my forties and move to a nice villa somewhere sunny.
I did look at the swan boats and these seem to be around a million pounds secondhand for a 50ft plus unless im looking at the wrong ones.
was trying to avoid mentions of money but i guess it is important for a budget.
I was thinking of £800 to £1.3 for a villa, my assumption for a boat due to the far higher running costs would be to divide this by four so £200/300k for the boat with the rest for running costs for a duration of 10/15 years, is this a sensible prediction?
I did look at the swan boats and these seem to be around a million pounds secondhand for a 50ft plus unless im looking at the wrong ones.
was trying to avoid mentions of money but i guess it is important for a budget.
I was thinking of £800 to £1.3 for a villa, my assumption for a boat due to the far higher running costs would be to divide this by four so £200/300k for the boat with the rest for running costs for a duration of 10/15 years, is this a sensible prediction?
Edited by Sheetmaself on Saturday 1st October 10:57
Buying the villa and a boat was my thinking but then i wondered if i could have my cake and eat it by just buying a boat.
Spending £750 on a boat i do not see that happening without changing my lifestyle due to cost but i am comfortable at the £300 range.
I have other properties so if i bought a villa i would not be spending all year there just a significant period of time. The live aboard boat if that route was taken would be ised to move between these properties potentially.
Spending £750 on a boat i do not see that happening without changing my lifestyle due to cost but i am comfortable at the £300 range.
I have other properties so if i bought a villa i would not be spending all year there just a significant period of time. The live aboard boat if that route was taken would be ised to move between these properties potentially.
That boat is beautiful but the number of ropes scares me!
I do need to be realistic about the amount of work which can be done, my wife is a dainty size 8 and would muck in but there is a limit to what she would be able to do strength wise.
I assume,for a cost, automation can be added to most boats. And like most things it is slcheaper to buy a well modified boat than modify one myself.
I do need to be realistic about the amount of work which can be done, my wife is a dainty size 8 and would muck in but there is a limit to what she would be able to do strength wise.
I assume,for a cost, automation can be added to most boats. And like most things it is slcheaper to buy a well modified boat than modify one myself.
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