Airliners in 45 years ?

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J4CKO

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Friday 21st October 2016
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Just watched this, from the year of my birth (and the 747, about which I am reading the excellent book "Wide Body" as recommended on here) and made me wonder how far airliners have come since then,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZMCvCl0b8

Needs the volume up for the full effect.


They look broadly similar but are a lot smokier and noisier, this took me back to hearing the howls from Manchester airport and seeing the plumes of crud as they went over, right on the flightpath pretty much, my parents still live there and it is amazing how clean and quiet modern jets are, still hear it but there is nothing like the complete fury of a 1-11 trying to drag its underpowered arse heavenwards on a warm day, that will it/wont it feeling despite it trying its hardest, then a 727 seemingly requiring a lot less effort !

They dont look radically different now, a tube with wings but configurations seem to have settled on two engines, on the wings slung underneath, we have winglets of varying types but have lost the variations, not really any tri jets left, limited number with 4 engines now.

I know a lot has gone on under the skin, safety is much improved but where will be be in another 45 years ?

If by some miracle I live until 90, what would I be flying on ?

J4CKO

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Monday 24th October 2016
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Currently I think premium economy on a 787 with a pair of Bose QC 25's, plenty of booze and some decent films is about the best your average mortal can get comfort wise and not pay thousands for, that bit of extra room makes a big difference.

J4CKO

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Tuesday 25th October 2016
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hairyben said:
J4CKO said:
Currently I think premium economy on a 787 with a pair of Bose QC 25's, plenty of booze and some decent films is about the best your average mortal can get comfort wise and not pay thousands for, that bit of extra room makes a big difference.
PE always seems such terrible value to me. What, 20-25% more floorspace over economy, no extra weight/fuel, taxes etc (some of the biggest costs), for at least double the fare? At least the london-australia route, maybe that one attracts a premium?

But yeah if they can improve efficiency to the point you get a bit more elbow/leg room within the average plonkers budget that'd be nice to see. Also twin seats so couples travelling together can have a little personal space would go down well, 3 seat multiples are just so cattle wagon like.
Usually not that big of a price difference, work will pay for that but not business, makes it tolerable.