Stuka in winter camo' pics?

[T89 Callan]

I'm currently building a 1/32nd Scale JU-87 Stuka, D-5 Russian front and want to do the white washed winter camo scheme.

I can't find any colour photos of these on the internet though, does anone possibly have a book or magazine with a picture of such an aircraft in it?

Any help appreciated.

ETA: Just after a scan or something not asking for someone to send me the book. There are pictures of models on t'internet with this camo' but I like to see the original machine to try and get an idea of how the paint was actually applied in the field. Also why this is not in the scale models forum.

Edited by T89 Callan on Sunday 3rd January 21:08

[T89 Callan]

Eric Mc said:

I have the Osprey book on Stukas on the Eastern Front. I'll see if I can scan in a picture or two later.

Cheers pal.

[T89 Callan]

Thats brillaint guys cheers.

As with the winter camo' tank I did it seems that they were all different and done by the crews with thin whitewash.

Also I wanted to see if they did it after the sqd/number/luftwaffe marking or before so I know when to add the water stickers.

What i'll do is paint and sticker it then add the whit wash after to get the effect of crew-added temporary camo'

[T89 Callan]

basically I'm building this: D-5 in winter camo'

[T89 Callan]

Scraggles said:

googled images for the title

http://www.rlm.at/cont/gal17_e.htm

Thats a model though.

I like to try and understand how it was done on the real planes.

[T89 Callan]

Eric Mc said:

This months "Military Aircraft Monthly" magazine contains a potted history of the D and G model Stukas. There is some nice artwork acompanying the article too as well as a build of the Hasegawa 1/32 Stuka D. The magazine should still be available on shop shelves gor a few more weeks.

Cheers I'll check the shelves next time I go into town.

[T89 Callan]

mybrainhurts said:

^^^^^^^......Looks like a tin of white emulsion and a 6" brush to dab it on...

Yep, I really like the bottom pic that Dr GN supplied, looks again like thin white wash dabbed on with a mop.

I'll go for that I think.

[T89 Callan]

Cheers man, I really like this one. This is what I am going to aim for.

The pictures show that each one was definately a product of it's own crew and unique.

dr_gn said:

Edited by T89 Callan on Monday 4th January 20:03

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

Cheers man, I really like this one. This is what I am going to aim for.

The pictures show that each one was definately a product of it's own crew and unique.

dr_gn said:

Edited by T89 Callan on Monday 4th January 20:03

Cotton bud with some thinned white paint on it?

Or a tiny sponge? I got one from Hobbycraft for wiping excess wash off a model. I think it was in the watercolour/painting equipment section.

EDIT : I'd be inclined to add the whitewash after the decal stage, but before applying a dark wash to bring out the panel lines, possibly with some post-shading (using thinned Tamiya Smoke), and exhuast staining etc. I think if you apply the white as a final touch, it would look wrong. I'd also leave any canopy masking in place before doing it. BTW I've never tried post-shading, but the rebuilt Mustang on Britmodeller (mentioned in my Spitfire rebuild thread) looks good IMO, and would make the whitewash look a bit more subtle.

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 4th January 21:54

Cheers for the advice, I don't have a fking clue what you're talking about though.

It will be stickers - whitewash - finished

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

Cheers man, I really like this one. This is what I am going to aim for.

The pictures show that each one was definately a product of it's own crew and unique.

dr_gn said:

Edited by T89 Callan on Monday 4th January 20:03

Cotton bud with some thinned white paint on it?

Or a tiny sponge? I got one from Hobbycraft for wiping excess wash off a model. I think it was in the watercolour/painting equipment section.

EDIT : I'd be inclined to add the whitewash after the decal stage, but before applying a dark wash to bring out the panel lines, possibly with some post-shading (using thinned Tamiya Smoke), and exhuast staining etc. I think if you apply the white as a final touch, it would look wrong. I'd also leave any canopy masking in place before doing it. BTW I've never tried post-shading, but the rebuilt Mustang on Britmodeller (mentioned in my Spitfire rebuild thread) looks good IMO, and would make the whitewash look a bit more subtle.

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 4th January 21:54

Cheers for the advice, I don't have a fking clue what you're talking about though.

It will be stickers - whitewash - finished

Forget the post-shading then.

A wash is just thinned pigment capillaried or wiped into the panel lines and control surface breaks (assuming your model has recessed lines), then any excess wiped off the main surfaces of the model. It then leaves the panel lines darker than the rest of the model. It can look really good, but if overdone it looks crap. I have been using Promodeller dark and light washes (can be mixed), which is water soluble, so if you get it wrong you can just rinse it off. Brush or airbrush a coat of Johnson's Klear onto the model before you try it (stops the wash staining/soaking into any matt or satin paint). After the wash, you then coat with whatever varnish you prefer, and it's done.

This, IMO is slightly overdone, but this model has had a panel line wash:



Here is some info:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwHP6Tj13DE

There is loads of stuff on YouTube about weathering models, much of it presented by a very very scary looking man.

Yeah I'm not into all that. No offence but that model looks like it's from a Disney Cartoon and I know that if I tried mine would look even more ridiculous than that.

I'd try and then it would go wrong, and then I would try to fix it and make it worse and then I would smash it up and be left with nothing.

[T89 Callan]

Eric Mc said:

Which kit are you building, the old Revell one or the newer Hasegawa?

I'm doing the Revell D-1 to 5 kit, I might do a Hasegawa G-2 at a later date now that I know where I stand with 1/32nd Stuka's

I certainly won't be using Tamiya or Revell Acrylic paint again though, it's fking rubbish.

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

Eric Mc said:

Which kit are you building, the old Revell one or the newer Hasegawa?

I'm doing the Revell D-1 to 5 kit, I might do a Hasegawa G-2 at a later date now that I know where I stand with 1/32nd Stuka's

I certainly won't be using Tamiya or Revell Acrylic paint again though, it's fking rubbish.

Not if you've got an airbrush.

Well I don't. And it doesn't say anywhere on the pot that it's for an airbrush? Would have been nice if it said so I wouldn't have bought it.

[T89 Callan]

All done.

[T89 Callan]

Eric Mc said:

My, that was quick. The only thing missing are the Swastikas on the tailfin.

I don't mess about....

Were can I get some Swastikas from? I couldn't find any water sticker sets on ebay, I was thinking about trying to paint them but that will be pretty hard.