What Can be Flown without a Licence

[SystemParanoia]

What manned craft can be flown in the uk without a licence...

i.e .. buy and fly ( then die if you've had no training )

i was just making up a mental list in my head really


Paraglider/Paramotors



Hang Gliders / FLPHG



The Martin Personal Jetpack ( ducted fan )



Personal Helicopter pack



Wing In Ground effect Craft ( Classed as boats )









so... is there anything else?

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 19th October 16:44

[SystemParanoia]

well, the helo, and the jet pack im presuming are flyable without a licence, as they're just backpacks.. not actually aircraft?

[SystemParanoia]

would a combo paramotor backpack with Autogyro attachment ( worn with roller blades ) qualify for licence free flying?

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Eric Mc said:

Dream on.

As far as I know, every flyable machine flying in the UK must have received some form of Certificate of Airworthiness.

And the pilots must be licenced too.

so i cant just buy a paraglider off ebay and just go fly?

[SystemParanoia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXm3r-2-iWU

these guys did it... eventually went really bloomin high... scary high considering it was their first time flying.


what laws have they broken?

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Eric Mc said:

What country were they in?

What country are you in?

looked at some of his earlier vids... they're in the UK... as am I


Edit : looked in the comments.. apparently they're in Wiltshire

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 19th October 17:41

[SystemParanoia]

some WIG types have the ability to "Jump" out of Ground effect to substantial hights for prolonged periods...

is this illegal if you don't hold a PPL ?

[SystemParanoia]

From Wiki

1. Type A cannot operate out of ground effect.

2. Type B can jump to clear obstacles by converting kinetic energy (speed) into potential energy (height), but cannot maintain flight without the support of the ground effect.

3. Type C are certified as aircraft, with the ability to operate safely and efficiently out of ground effect.

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 19th October 17:38

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Eric Mc said:

SystemParanoia said:

Eric Mc said:

What country were they in?

What country are you in?

looked at some of his earlier vids... they're in the UK... as am I

Nothing to stop you if you really want to. I'm sure you'll sooner or later have a run in with the authorities - either in the form of a summons or a trip in an air ambulance.

would it be the police? or some dark suited Mi6 type figure?

i would really not do any of these without training like those kids in the vid!... as fun as a helicopter ride would be, and as nice and helpful as i presume the crew are... i'd rather not ever meet them

[SystemParanoia]

i am keen, and i will!!!

currently saving my pennies for a mosquito microlight heli and lessons to get the correct licence to fly it

but in the meantime, i wouldn't mind flying a FLPHG back and forth on the daily commute

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mrloudly said:

No licence or indeed official training required for Paramotors.

"SSDR" (Single Seat De Regulated) ((Below 115kg)) no airworthiness certs or regulations although you will need a licence NPPL (M) to fly

There are routes into the air without training although probably not very clever :-)

Andy M (G-TANA)

is that 115kg including pilot?

[SystemParanoia]

wow!

well the mosquito helicopter im after comes in at 141kg... im sure some weight saving could be done to bring it under the 115kg barrier

mabe a different engine?

[SystemParanoia]

i have no intentions of getting myself killed, and plan to get an NPPL(H) <-- if that doesnt exist, then ill just get the PPL(H)

yes it will take about 60hrs, and a shedload of money but im in no rush.

i just like the thought of buying a single seat helicopter for the price of a Hot Hatch

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but prior to that little dream thats many years away... i'd really like to get into the sky as cheaply and conveniently as possible


Edit: http://innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/forums/thre...

guess i'd better not bother learning until this is sorted out



guess ill start browsing for hangglider\paraglider lessons

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 19th October 23:56

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jenkotvr said:

Another big for paramotoring. Total freedom and fits in the boot of your car, i started PPL but soon stopped when I got a paramotor :

every tried any of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9V7GEOUGhk

( skip to 1:23 )

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dudleybloke said:

do motor-gliders need a licence?

FLPHG's are like ppg s in that they dont need a licence