Any drummers here?

[Driller]

I have a Roland TD12 in my studio/rehearsal room but I want to get an acoustic kit (with some mics) as most drummers hate the Roland.

I was thinking of a Pearl Masters Maple Complete with a Sabian AAX cymbal pack. Styles are mostly hard rock metal.

Looking at this studio version: https://www.thomann.de/gb/pearl_masters_maple_comp...

Any thoughts?

[Driller]

Hi and thanks for your input! I'm not a drummer although have been plying music for years so have some idea.

I did look at the Export and yes I don't want to waste money but at the same time I don't want to compromise on the playability or sound of the drums. Obviously the talent of the drummer matters a lot.

Do you think the Export wouldn't sound that much different from the Masters then? Maybe the difference between an Epiphone and Gibson?

[Driller]

Great stuff guys thanks for the advice. I'm really torn now, don't want to overspend but that M3 comment was really convincing

I have a DW 9000 double kick pedal BTW which will do the job. Have to price up the kits and see.

If you can think of anything else please post it up!

[Driller]

I've decided to stick with Pearl to keep comparisons easy.

With stands and a matching snare the Masters Maple comes in at €2087 wothout symbals.

Been also looking at a Session Studio which is €1717 for the same and the Masters Premium but that's €3377 which is getting into serious money for someone who doesn't play drums but probably a beautiful kit.

I've been told the Sabian AAX performance cymbal pack is best but that's another €850 odd-bloody hell, I didn't know how expensive cymbals were!

[Driller]

I don't know whether I'm selling my TD-12 yet Funk, if you like give a PM if ever you don't get Hogeth's one.

Thought about the Export but I just think it seems to be not high end enough. It's for rehearsal but I will also be recording with it. Damn it, just realised I'm gonna have to get some drum mics too!

Will go with the Masters Maple and the Sabian set which doesn't seem half as extravagant now after reading the advice here.

[Driller]

Thanks for the links!

ETA I know the Export is considered a good basic kit and no offence to any Export owners but I reckon it sounds dreadful in that video compared to the Masters Maple. Kind of dead and "clattery" at the same time.

Edited by Driller on Monday 3rd October 21:15

Edited by Driller on Monday 3rd October 21:16

[Driller]

Good shout for TRX I'll have a look at that.

I'd love to get a recording custom set but can't justify the expense at the moment!

On another note, the reason I got the electronic kit was to save my ears (I have custom IEMs but it's still loud.

Just discovered drum shields which is a brilliant idea. Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.drumscreens.co.uk/drumscreens/index.php...

[Driller]

After much thought and considering the great advice given here I got a Pearl Masters Maple Complete kit with optimount toms, all gyrolock hardware and Sabian AAX performance kit (stage hats and 20" stage ride and 16" and 18" Xplosion crashes).

It's my first real drum kit (TD12 doesn't count right?) and it surely is a beautiful thing to behold in matt "caviar" black. Shame it's going to get the hell beaten out of it.

Thanks again for all your help. Just got to put the bloody thing together now!

[Driller]

It's up and looking (and sounding) great! Will post a pic in 6 months if it makes you happy

Funk said:

I've been thinking about getting rid of my acoustic kit and getting an electronic kit... Are you thinking of selling the TD-12 by any chance...?

Funk I've decided to sell my TD12 if you're still interested. I don't know how much it's worth (it's in very nick) so make me an offer if you're still after one, save me putting it on ebay.

[Driller]

No I did'nt get it funk! Checking my junk.

[Driller]

Got it and replied.

Thanks for your comments Joe, I'll look into that!

BTW I ordered the Clearsonic drum shield and an AKG Concert 1 mic set plus a C451 for the hi-hats, seemed a good compromise of quality vs cost.

Edited by Driller on Wednesday 2nd November 13:54

[Driller]

JoeCastle said:

Driller said:

Got it and replied.

Thanks for your comments Joe, I'll look into that!

No problem at all! Where is your rehearsal space? me and the guys are always looking for new places to practice.

My house in Paris

[Driller]

Got a 17" AAX chinese and 10" splash, this drum thing is addictive!

Booth almost finished, just needs a bit more acoustic treatment.



It's so quite now (and the drummer is a hard hitter) that we're going to have to mic up the kick for rehearsal.

Been reading up on recording and some suggest that the sound will not be "live" enough in the booth for recording. I can always take it down but any drummers who record here have any thoughts?

[Driller]

JoeCastle said:

Nirvana, In Utero is a good example. Lots of Mics set up "Around" the drumset and the room as opposed to directly sticking on Mics. Obviously, Grohl is a Mammoth hitter and Albini had a big room, but its a great example of how the drum sounds in the room as opposed to just how the drum set sounds. We've recorded drums in a Warehouse before and that sounded great!

Sounds like you've been doing this a while, any info on your band?

In fact I know the biggest room is better, I was wondering what sort of sound I could get in the booth which is fairly dead. Only one way to find out I suppose!