V8/V6/S6/etc Engined 4x4

[Art0ir]

I've got the 4x4 itch again and need a new vehicle in the next few weeks. Doing a lot less miles now than I was and the car I'm replacing only did 26MPG on average anyway, so fuel costs aren't a concern. I'll also be after one with an LPG conversion already done. At the minute I'm between a 3.9/4.0 Disco and a 4.0 Grand Cherokee.

Knowing me I'll end up splashing out on silly big tyres and an ugly A/bull bar with spots unless it comes with it already.

Are there any others I you would recommend?

Budget up to £3k I guess, it WILL spend time in rivers and traversing the local mountains and I'd cringe if I knocked anything more expensive on a rock..

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MPG is not a concern, but given vehicles around that price range tend to demand little or no premium for a gas conversion done, so it makes sense.

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BFG TERRANO said:

Why not a diesel?

I just don't enjoy driving them is the honest answer.

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Thoughts?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

EDIT: Tax would be a killer mind you but not the end of the world

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chalkey said:

the overland jeep also has lsd's front and rear (quadradrive),tank guard, transmission guard, steering guard and rock sliders from the factory not to mention the 1" upcountry suspension lift, auto wipers and alcantara and leather interior and el dials.

dont get a limited go for the overland otherwise you will just be sad everytime you see an overland

So go for the one above basically?

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tr7v8 said:

The consensus is that the 4litre I6 is better for LPG than the V8.

Is that not more so to do with valve seat regression? A flashlube system should sort that, Non? Or is there another reason?

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tr7v8 said:

Yes it is the reason. I understand that there have been valve seat cracking issues as well.

I see.. I'll keep that in mind cheers. Anything else to look out for during a test drive/inspection? I hear there's issues with the A/C breaking itself during self tests and no hot or cold air on one side.

Edit: Just realised I asked for an "S6 Engine" ffs.. spa

Edited by Art0ir on Tuesday 9th October 16:49

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tr7v8 said:

Check that everything works. The heating & a/c issue is the opposite of most cars. Set the climate to hot & makes sure it blows hot, both sides. This is the blend door issue which is £150-200 to sort. Then turn the temp down on the climate & check you get cold air out when the a/c cuts in. When you start it check the o/d light comes on then goes out. Otherwise the gearbox ecu is stuffed. Check all the warning lights are going on/off as they should. The driveline whines a bit but shouldn't be excessive, the axles need synthetic oil changed every 15-20K. Wheel bearings can suffer especially if offroaded & the fronts are not cheap. Dip the gearbox oil & check it is roughly to level, is bright pinky red, not blackened & doesn't smell burnt. The box is due an oil & filter change at 90K check it has been done. Cost is around £200 or so, but MUST use Dexron IV not anything else. Pre 2002 cars should have had the front callipers changed from the ATEs to the later Akebonos. Google it before you look so you know the difference. The cost for the new callipers as a kit with pads is £300.

Turn the volume up on the stereo & fade it to the front. The tweeters in the top of the dash should be OK & not rattle. A pair are $50 from the US & 20 minutes to change.

Check in over at jeep-club.co.uk loads of Jeep nutters there. Want any more ask!

Magic, thanks buddy! Terribly tempted by the one I posted above..

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I've seen that in the states the Overlander has a higher output v8, does the same apply in the UK?

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So 235BHP or 265BHP? Both enough to pull a horse trailer if needed I guess, I wonder is there any way to find out which engine it has..

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psychoR1 said:

Afaik the 265 should say high output on the plenum in big letters?

Great cheers.. just to find out where the one above is and see if I convince a PHer to take a look for some beer money

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Anything else anyone can think to look out for? All help much appreciated. Had a look at that jeep forum but it's fairly quiet, might take a nosy on the V8 forums..

[Art0ir]

OK, very kind fella from another forum called around for me.

Needs;

- Two front tyres & geometry set (outer wear on both)
- Rear seat belt holder not working
- Driver's side not giving out hot air ("trickling out")
- Shocks not supporting the bonnet

Cosmetically, there's a scratch on every panel apparently, which is at the bottom of my list of concerns frankly!

Gearbox oil sweet, all fluids at correct levels with no discolouration, etc. Drives fine on gas, started from cold perfectly and switched over to gas after a mile.

I'll get onto eBay this evening but anyone know how much the bonnet shocks are to sort? I see the blend door issue is £150-200 (is that just parts?)

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It's MOT'd until next July but I've learnt from experience that means little other than it's more attractive to buyers.

Found the shocks on eBay for £33 each and the HeaterTreater basic repair kit (not sure if I need the dual one yet).

So £66 for shocks, £75-110 for heater repair kit, £20-30 for seatbelt receiver.. just need to find out the tyre size now.

I'll call him in the morning and bid him down, hopefully get a deposit on not long after

Edited by Art0ir on Wednesday 10th October 19:50

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chalkey said:

be carful on the tyre front make sure the tyres on the back have good tread as you are supposed to change them as a whole set as it can mess with the drivetrain and lsd's if not im sure ive read that you get 6 or 8% tollerance

bonnet dampers are not even a 5 min job mine were gone when i bought mine

Yea I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, the tolerance is even lower than that I believe.

Edited by Art0ir on Thursday 11th October 12:07

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Hmm, to eBay!

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Beyond remoulds there really doesn't seem to be much worth talking about in 17" for A/T at all

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Called seller this afternoon after not being able to get through this morning, said he would call me back. Just called to say he sold it 5 minutes ago. *Sigh*. Back to Gumtree & Autotrader.

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Found another.. actually looks a better buy. Slightly dearer but less miles and much better bodywork and new tyres all around (£££'s).

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Well the chap I was meant to call over to this weekend to take his Jeep from didn't work out.. Three times I asked him for his number and gave him mine to speed up the process but he would only communicate via eBay messages. Obviously only checks them every two days as well which is a waste of time. Feck him, his loss.

So there's one closer to me, higher miles (130k) but FSH and recent LPG service too. Noise from the rear diff on full lock (LSD in these, so hoping it just needs an oil change or at worst a bearing which a day underneath some axle stands should sort..) but other than that looks mechanically sound. A lot cheaper too so hopefully it should all balance out, will see tonight!