rent rises - non ejari registered contract.....
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righto,
last year we rented a 2 bed in JBR, nice pad and great view over the palm for 100k all in. didn't use an agent [my mate was moving out and so did the deal direct with the landlord] and wrote the contract myself on one of the blue forms. as it looked like effort, i didn't register with ejari.
just looked at the ejari rental increase calculator and it says the average rent for jbr is 130k for a 2 bed with a max. permissable increase of 5k. if i can get a renewal for 105k i would be laughing, but can't see the landlord being ok with that.
anyways, he just rang me to sound out if we're staying. bad line so i said i'd email him.
just wondered how i should approach this. do i go in with the ejari figure or wait for him to propose a price? do i have a leg to stand on given i haven't registered the contract??
last year we rented a 2 bed in JBR, nice pad and great view over the palm for 100k all in. didn't use an agent [my mate was moving out and so did the deal direct with the landlord] and wrote the contract myself on one of the blue forms. as it looked like effort, i didn't register with ejari.
just looked at the ejari rental increase calculator and it says the average rent for jbr is 130k for a 2 bed with a max. permissable increase of 5k. if i can get a renewal for 105k i would be laughing, but can't see the landlord being ok with that.
anyways, he just rang me to sound out if we're staying. bad line so i said i'd email him.
just wondered how i should approach this. do i go in with the ejari figure or wait for him to propose a price? do i have a leg to stand on given i haven't registered the contract??
we pay the housing fee with dewa anyway, its 2/3 of our monthly bills!
cheers for the advice, i'll email and see what he sets the renewal at.
i feel like i'm on shaky ground as we didn't use an agency, just bought the contract from a stationers and i wrote a page of t&c's. we're also paying 30k less than market rate.
will suck it and see. if i stayed i need to find a flatmate anyway.
cheers for the advice, i'll email and see what he sets the renewal at.
i feel like i'm on shaky ground as we didn't use an agency, just bought the contract from a stationers and i wrote a page of t&c's. we're also paying 30k less than market rate.
will suck it and see. if i stayed i need to find a flatmate anyway.
so the landlord is in town and wants to meet up to discuss the new contract. i'm not exactly happy at having to do this with only 10 days left on the current one but hey ho.
just wondered waht the law is. am i right that the rent for the second year cannot be more than the first year or can he still put it up by the rera rent calculator figure?
rera says 5% max which i am ok with but just need to know the facts before meeting. at 5% i would be mad not to extend given that's still 30k under market rate for this place.
just wondered waht the law is. am i right that the rent for the second year cannot be more than the first year or can he still put it up by the rera rent calculator figure?
rera says 5% max which i am ok with but just need to know the facts before meeting. at 5% i would be mad not to extend given that's still 30k under market rate for this place.
this is why i'm annoyed he's left it so late,gonna be a good one for ejari seeing as it isn't registered with them and i wrote the contact which was never countersigned by a witness.
can't move, too late notice and too much stuff. what would happen if it did go to mediation? my company don't get involved with tenancy disputes.
can't move, too late notice and too much stuff. what would happen if it did go to mediation? my company don't get involved with tenancy disputes.
well that just couldn't have gone any better! he was in and out and agreement made in well under 2 minutes!
he asked me if i wanted to stay and i said yes.
he asked if i'd prepare the contract again for him to sign and i said yes.
i asked if i could pay in 2 cheques this time and he said yes.
he then started price negotiations to which i responded that under ejari he can't raise the rent for the first 2 years. he smiled and shrugged and said no problem, no price increase.
well chuffed. pub time!
he asked me if i wanted to stay and i said yes.
he asked if i'd prepare the contract again for him to sign and i said yes.
i asked if i could pay in 2 cheques this time and he said yes.
he then started price negotiations to which i responded that under ejari he can't raise the rent for the first 2 years. he smiled and shrugged and said no problem, no price increase.
well chuffed. pub time!
Edited by shirt on Saturday 19th October 15:18
so with that out the way i now need a new flatmate. if you know of anyone looking please pass on my details. it's a bargain deal if i do say so myself.
2 bed in JBR murjan. facing the sea overlooking the palm and beach etc. just behind the ritz carlton so no building sites anywhere in view and no chance of having them either! beach is a 2 minute walk away.
bedroom is a good size with separate private bathroom. maid's room/store cupboard for storing junk and cases etc. will be a bit more room in there once all the parts go back on my clubby!
parking is included and pretty much unlimited as we have the podium carpark [public free access] accessible from our lift. usual marina traffic but can't avoid that sadly.
rent will depend whether someone wants to pay the full year in advance. if so then i'll just split it down the middle, 50k + bills. if not then i'll have to charge a little more for monthly payment to mitigate against someone moving out unexpectedly. i reckon 4.5k a month is about right.
bills are averaging about 500 a month each for dewa, district cooling & du.
must like cats as they'll have to feed her when i'm travelling.
2 bed in JBR murjan. facing the sea overlooking the palm and beach etc. just behind the ritz carlton so no building sites anywhere in view and no chance of having them either! beach is a 2 minute walk away.
bedroom is a good size with separate private bathroom. maid's room/store cupboard for storing junk and cases etc. will be a bit more room in there once all the parts go back on my clubby!
parking is included and pretty much unlimited as we have the podium carpark [public free access] accessible from our lift. usual marina traffic but can't avoid that sadly.
rent will depend whether someone wants to pay the full year in advance. if so then i'll just split it down the middle, 50k + bills. if not then i'll have to charge a little more for monthly payment to mitigate against someone moving out unexpectedly. i reckon 4.5k a month is about right.
bills are averaging about 500 a month each for dewa, district cooling & du.
must like cats as they'll have to feed her when i'm travelling.
Asterix said:
shirt said:
am i right that the rent for the second year cannot be more than the first year
ThisHe came to sign the contract tonight and had a printout of the ejari calculator saying he can charge an additional 5% and that the above is an old law that now doesn't apply.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 22 October 00:26
need the info today please if anyone knows where i should be looking?
ETA - looks like he's right, see article 9:
http://www.bhomes.com/uae/dubai-law.xhtml
he has to give 90days notice of a hike though so i'll try that.
ETA - looks like he's right, see article 9:
http://www.bhomes.com/uae/dubai-law.xhtml
he has to give 90days notice of a hike though so i'll try that.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 22 October 06:13
does the rent calculator allow a rise in your area?
i can swallow it and it's fair in the grand scheme of things [no agency fees etc.] but i am still a yorkshireman!
ETA - reading the laws further it seems there are areas for interpretation depending on the wording of the contract. it seems that a contract could give the tenant some really useful rights like short notice periods and no penalty fees for early termination.
pretty useful if one were writing their own contract
i can swallow it and it's fair in the grand scheme of things [no agency fees etc.] but i am still a yorkshireman!
ETA - reading the laws further it seems there are areas for interpretation depending on the wording of the contract. it seems that a contract could give the tenant some really useful rights like short notice periods and no penalty fees for early termination.
pretty useful if one were writing their own contract
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 22 October 07:06
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