I genuinely don't know what car to buy (yes a what car)
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So I am slowly dying a death in a rented Ford Figo...
The Mustang in my profile served me very very well for 7 years and over 100k kms, that was an Al Tayer car that I bought from Ras al Khor at 1 year old, so had the balance of a 3 year/60k kms service pack and warranty.
By and large cost me buttons to run aside from tyres and batteries, had some gearbox issues in December, upon investigation it would have cost circa 50-60% of the value of the car to fix properly, I asked the garage if they fancied making me an offer on it (they'd previously done the same on the other half's Kia) and we shook hands on the deal there and then.
I am now completely stumped as to what to replace it with.
Recent Dubizzle search histories include
F150 (It's an itch that wants to be scratched)
Merc SL (AMG variant, massive bork potential)
Cayman (would need to chat to the Pork section about all these IMS/RMS/Bore scoring issues)
Caddy CTS (the Vette engined one)
Corvette
Cherokee SRT
Budget is around 150 (there is probably another 30 there for man maths)..
I'd like something with some kind of OEM warranty still on it if possible, I live in JVT and work in the Greens so commute is tiny, only distances I drive are to the golf courses of the UAE.
Mate threw in that Hyundai Genesis thing as something new and left field, it has the right kind of ingredients on paper plus they are cheap (about 100k iirc) but I am worried it'd still feel like I was driving a taxi...
Test drove a Focus ST when the missus picked up her Edge, horrible thing, never appreciated what an issue torque steer is until then.
Ideally needs to be able to fit a full size golf bag in the bag as well.
HELP!
The Mustang in my profile served me very very well for 7 years and over 100k kms, that was an Al Tayer car that I bought from Ras al Khor at 1 year old, so had the balance of a 3 year/60k kms service pack and warranty.
By and large cost me buttons to run aside from tyres and batteries, had some gearbox issues in December, upon investigation it would have cost circa 50-60% of the value of the car to fix properly, I asked the garage if they fancied making me an offer on it (they'd previously done the same on the other half's Kia) and we shook hands on the deal there and then.
I am now completely stumped as to what to replace it with.
Recent Dubizzle search histories include
F150 (It's an itch that wants to be scratched)
Merc SL (AMG variant, massive bork potential)
Cayman (would need to chat to the Pork section about all these IMS/RMS/Bore scoring issues)
Caddy CTS (the Vette engined one)
Corvette
Cherokee SRT
Budget is around 150 (there is probably another 30 there for man maths)..
I'd like something with some kind of OEM warranty still on it if possible, I live in JVT and work in the Greens so commute is tiny, only distances I drive are to the golf courses of the UAE.
Mate threw in that Hyundai Genesis thing as something new and left field, it has the right kind of ingredients on paper plus they are cheap (about 100k iirc) but I am worried it'd still feel like I was driving a taxi...
Test drove a Focus ST when the missus picked up her Edge, horrible thing, never appreciated what an issue torque steer is until then.
Ideally needs to be able to fit a full size golf bag in the bag as well.
HELP!
shirt said:
m3?
sam's evora is for sale for 150k. not sure if warranty is left but he hasn't had any issues with it other than the clutch [factory recall]. cracking car, cheap to service [toyota running gear] and looks the nuts. http://tnydu.biz/DOsVur
suv wise you should try a cayenne gts. easy to hate the looks but driving one is a different matter entirely. the new cherokee is also a great car [huuuge step over the last gen] with all the toys. a friend is selling her fully specced overland at a bargain price as she's taken a job in the uk - http://tnydu.biz/DOssvQ
new mustangs are in budget as well. new one seems a step up in terms of chassis and certainly looks a lot better.
re: cayman you can take your pick at that money. as long as you buy an 09 model onwards the driveline was redesigned so doesn't have the IMS problem. at your budget you could be in a 911.
given you're used to a lazy v8 gt type of car, perhaps a jag xk / xkr would suit?
still, an evora though…… [2% commission please sam]
Hmmm, that's exactly the kind of thing I'd hoped I would get thrown at me, I'd never even thought of a Lotus.sam's evora is for sale for 150k. not sure if warranty is left but he hasn't had any issues with it other than the clutch [factory recall]. cracking car, cheap to service [toyota running gear] and looks the nuts. http://tnydu.biz/DOsVur
suv wise you should try a cayenne gts. easy to hate the looks but driving one is a different matter entirely. the new cherokee is also a great car [huuuge step over the last gen] with all the toys. a friend is selling her fully specced overland at a bargain price as she's taken a job in the uk - http://tnydu.biz/DOssvQ
new mustangs are in budget as well. new one seems a step up in terms of chassis and certainly looks a lot better.
re: cayman you can take your pick at that money. as long as you buy an 09 model onwards the driveline was redesigned so doesn't have the IMS problem. at your budget you could be in a 911.
given you're used to a lazy v8 gt type of car, perhaps a jag xk / xkr would suit?
still, an evora though…… [2% commission please sam]
Edited by shirt on Monday 4th April 11:24
Think I've done the Mustang thing, it'd feel like cheating on my first love.
Two mates had horrific experiences with M3s, it's somewhat put me off them (and I'd rather a C63 anyway).
Will refine Pork searches to 2010 onwards and see what that brings and give some thought to that Evora.
XKR again not a bad shout, people we share dogsitting duties with have one, I'll chat to him about the experience.
Just seen another Raptor on way back from lunch which isn't helping (Chris, talk me out of it!)
shirt said:
i saw sams evora at the weekend. they look so much better in the metal, i was trying to persuade him not to sell it! he's coming up to dubai thursday-saturday as well if you wanted a look/chat.
lotus community is tiny here but does include a few superstars. pretty sure someone on here works at the dealership too. i usually look on seloc [uk site] for technical issues and lotus talk [US] for creature comforts. although the evora doesn't need anywhere near the fettling the elise does to cope out here.
I've lost your number, ping me a text if you still have mine, I might have time to come see it Friday afternoon if the stars alignlotus community is tiny here but does include a few superstars. pretty sure someone on here works at the dealership too. i usually look on seloc [uk site] for technical issues and lotus talk [US] for creature comforts. although the evora doesn't need anywhere near the fettling the elise does to cope out here.
Fats25 said:
Someone on here maybe selling his Cayman soon.
No idea of price, and no idea if still selling, but I will point him in direction of this thread when he returns from UK today (or perhaps tomorrow).
I know nothing of Caymans, other than his looks beautiful, and he is proper OCD about his cars!
Talk to me about the Raptor...No idea of price, and no idea if still selling, but I will point him in direction of this thread when he returns from UK today (or perhaps tomorrow).
I know nothing of Caymans, other than his looks beautiful, and he is proper OCD about his cars!
Fats25 said:
Just about to tee off for 9 holes. Will respond tomorrow with some of my ownership experience - let me know if you want to know anything specific:
Just what they are like to live with day to day really! Even the lifted FX4s have a strange appeal if it isn't the Raptor.
TNW said:
I had a Gen 1 boggo 2.7 Cayman for a year when I first moved here. It had an OPC warranty so I didn't have to worry too much about the engine letting go, not that I really needed it for anything. It had a pretty hard life with plenty of time on the track and yet it never missed a beat. The interior is miles better than a 997 of the same age with nowhere near the wear rate. Only other thing to really check apart from the engine seals is a recall for the oil/fuel separator (I think) which results an huge cloud of white smoke when it goes. Pretty worrying a the time, but doesn't do any damage. They also tend to give off a bit of blue smoke now and then when they start from cold (mine only did it in the "winter") - apparently this is normal!
If you want a warranty car, get one with a Porsche one on already. Otherwise it will have to go through the 111 point check first and I'm pretty sure they will dream up something expensive that's wrong with it + to pass the check it has to be 100% standard (even the battery needs to be OEM!) and either without any repaired accident damage or to have been fixed at the Porsche body shop. The cover can be extended yearly up to 10 years in total and is not too expensive here.
It's also worth checking the wheel / tyre sizes on the car. There's lots of different options and some of the tyre sizes are really hard to get hold of here, esp if it's got the smaller sizes.
As for driving, it's a much better handling car than a 997 if you want something with a neutral balance, but less of an event / challenge. Each have their good points but the Cayman is a lot more predictable & easier to extract the best from.
It's also amazing how much stuff you can fit in the front truck and rear hatch, filled it up with half an apartment of stuff from ikea once!
Good info cheersIf you want a warranty car, get one with a Porsche one on already. Otherwise it will have to go through the 111 point check first and I'm pretty sure they will dream up something expensive that's wrong with it + to pass the check it has to be 100% standard (even the battery needs to be OEM!) and either without any repaired accident damage or to have been fixed at the Porsche body shop. The cover can be extended yearly up to 10 years in total and is not too expensive here.
It's also worth checking the wheel / tyre sizes on the car. There's lots of different options and some of the tyre sizes are really hard to get hold of here, esp if it's got the smaller sizes.
As for driving, it's a much better handling car than a 997 if you want something with a neutral balance, but less of an event / challenge. Each have their good points but the Cayman is a lot more predictable & easier to extract the best from.
It's also amazing how much stuff you can fit in the front truck and rear hatch, filled it up with half an apartment of stuff from ikea once!
Edited by TNW on Monday 4th April 14:22
samnorthy said:
As shirt said I can be in DXB this weekend with the Evora if you want a look around it, also sold my raptor in October so am able to share some pointers on that experience also!
Funnily enough was thinking about an M3 should the lotus sell so would be interested in your mates experience there too.
Sam
I've first round of Club Championships Friday morning then some leaving do in the afternoon/evening, need to check with SWMBO what time that starts. Funnily enough was thinking about an M3 should the lotus sell so would be interested in your mates experience there too.
Sam
I assume the Raptor was the daily?
How was it?
Many issues (I have deep seated distrust of Al Tayer's service dept)?
Both were E46s, both had pretty catastrophic gearbox (SMG/DCT?) issues, one I could assume was down to a less than regular maintenance regime, the other looked after it very well.
Rich_AR said:
Cheers Fats25! Yes it's for sale (well, will be going up for sale in a week or so). I hardly use it enough to warrant owning it.
It's a 2015 Cayman GTS. Lots of options and less than 10k on the clock and still well in OPC warranty.
Yes I am a tad anal about it, I don't even like parking it in the sun and never use it for work either! Personally hand washed once a week and covered in a dust cover when not used! The paint work is mint as is the rest of the car!
Quick pic:
Drop me a message if you're interested
That's lovely, although I guess would need some considerable budget creep even above the 180 figure?It's a 2015 Cayman GTS. Lots of options and less than 10k on the clock and still well in OPC warranty.
Yes I am a tad anal about it, I don't even like parking it in the sun and never use it for work either! Personally hand washed once a week and covered in a dust cover when not used! The paint work is mint as is the rest of the car!
Quick pic:
Drop me a message if you're interested
6th Gear said:
^^^ That's a lovely looking Cayman.
What about the Audi S6?
Twin Turbo Charged V8, it's a Rocket!
Sure it's quick, feels more like the car I'd get after this one though. What about the Audi S6?
Twin Turbo Charged V8, it's a Rocket!
Neighbour has the 5 litre S5, that's a lovely looking thing.
Thanks to all for the input
This morning I am mainly lusting after this
http://tnydu.biz/DOswFX
Has to be a contender for world's most ridiculous 'coupe'
This morning I am mainly lusting after this
http://tnydu.biz/DOswFX
Has to be a contender for world's most ridiculous 'coupe'
Update (of sorts)
I've had 2 test drives in a the regular cab GMC Sierra (the 1 door one) and driven two F150s today (the V8 and the turbo'd V6), Lariats though not Raptors
Prefer the look of the GMC, the F150 was nicer to drive, incidentally the V6 is a much nicer drive than the V8.
I am no closer to knowing what I want so I am off to test drive a 370Z sometime this week
I've had 2 test drives in a the regular cab GMC Sierra (the 1 door one) and driven two F150s today (the V8 and the turbo'd V6), Lariats though not Raptors
Prefer the look of the GMC, the F150 was nicer to drive, incidentally the V6 is a much nicer drive than the V8.
I am no closer to knowing what I want so I am off to test drive a 370Z sometime this week
Pennyroyal Tea said:
Well, IMO the Raptor is a different game to the standard truck. It has worse road manners owing to the huge tyres, but will go places no F150 or Sierra can hope to. It also clears the outside lane better than anything this side of a 6 wheel Brabus G-wagon.
370Z is surely eclipsed by the manual Camaro, no?
I've no doubt you're right re the Raptor, I'm struggling with the man maths of dropping that much on a truck at the moment, I'm also paying for a wedding in September.370Z is surely eclipsed by the manual Camaro, no?
On the Camaro, I kind of feel anything American should have 8 cylinders and I also spent 7 years in the Mustang so looking at other options really.
Sincerely
Confused of JVT
Pennyroyal Tea said:
Is it just the photo, or is the car wearing front wheels on the back? The offset looks all wrong.
I went to have a look at a manual Camaro SS on Friday, which promised much but in reality had been driven with the sort of sympathy one might offer to a ginger step-child.
Hence, I'm keeping the Raptor. For now. Maybe.
Just the photo.I went to have a look at a manual Camaro SS on Friday, which promised much but in reality had been driven with the sort of sympathy one might offer to a ginger step-child.
Hence, I'm keeping the Raptor. For now. Maybe.
It will need 20mm spacers on front and 25 mm on back should it be purchased though.
IanUAE said:
For spacers go and see Jon Simmonds at Motorsport Wheels.
Aren't they ridiculously expensive?210 quid for four (H&R, 2x25 & 2x20) from the UK, I will check though.
After_Shock said:
If you manage to get a golf bag in a 370z I need photo evidence, the space inside is comical and beyond belief to the point I had to buy a second car just to be able to do anything like collecting people from the airport, even doing a big shop (was getting tiring taking a right turn and ending up with the shopping on my lap).
Great value car for what you get though, fuel consumption is beyond a joke though for the size of the thing, just be glad they have a reasonable size tank.
Carry bag went in no problem, both diagonally and also across the bottom nearest where you stand.Great value car for what you get though, fuel consumption is beyond a joke though for the size of the thing, just be glad they have a reasonable size tank.
Woods will have to come out but they can go by the strut, I actually think my tour bag will fit and probably 2 carry bags if needs be.
Didn't take a photo but plenty available on google as below.
Deposit paid, the dark grey with black interior, off to Amsterdam tonight and then Rome a week Thursday so will collect when back.
TNW said:
Bargain gt3rs, grab it before some lucky bugger snaps it up!
http://tnydu.biz/DOsae3
wow......http://tnydu.biz/DOsae3
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