Brake fade - how to combat it?

Brake fade - how to combat it?

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RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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Since getting my Sports 2000 this year season I've been sufferring horrendous brake fade. What are the best ways to resolve this?

Ideally I don't want to have to go easier on the brakes as a lot of my passing opportunities have come under braking, however it's gotten to the point now where I have no confidence in them and that I'm going to end up in the gravel trap.

What are your experiences of the different pads/discs out there? Any recommendations for really harsh braking/lots of use?

RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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I've already changed all the brake fluid to APRacing600 fluid, changed the master cylinders and hoses so pretty sure it's not that I'm boiling the fluid or anything. Can't think of what else it could be??

RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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It's a strange situation in that I seem to experience (what I am assuming is fade) on a corner (most noticeably coming into Becketts at Silverstone and Clearways at Brands) and then the next corner it will be back to normal however by then I've lost that confidence in the brakes.

The fluid has been uprated and the master cylinders changed for new ones as I thought it may be the seal in the cylinder.

The symptoms are that I will be coming into a quick corner that requires heavy braking, press the pedal hard and it feels like the pads aren't gripping the disc as they would normally and thus my braking distance is greatly increased. Almost feels like when the ABS kicks in on a normal car as I can feel the brakes gripping - only not as strongly as they would normally. I'm assuming this to be fade?

I'll get some temp strips and see what temp they are running at. Might just be a simple pad change that is required.

Edited by RobbieL on Thursday 2nd July 13:23

RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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thanks for thr replys. Regarding the temp strips there are several different ones available for a range of temps. Any idea which one i'd need?

As far as I know the pads are the standard jobs which came with the car. The front brakes are Girling and the rears are Lockheed. I'm beginning to think it may be that I'm too hard on the standard bpads and they're failing miserably. Going to speak to a few people today as mentioned above and see what pads i can get to fit my brakes. Will let you know how I get on

RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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ok so had my spanner man whip the wheels and discs off today while i was at work and the pads currently on it are EBC Yellow Stuff. Reading up the spec on the net these should be up to the job - or are EBC nothing special and I should move to the Pagid's or similar anyway?

RobbieL

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596 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Bit of an udate - upgraded the pads for Oulton Park last weekend to Ferodo's and my gosh they make a difference. Braking distances were greatly reduced and I had a lot more confidence inmy braking capabilities - however, this problem still reared it's ugly head once or twice.

As has been suggested above, i think I may be getting pad knock off as I experienced the problem after going past lakeside into Shell Oils and at the top of Clay Hill into Druids. Both quick, high load corners and both where there was a lot more pedal travel before I got a bite.

I know it has been suggested that a loose wheel bearing may be the culprit however is there anything else I should look for? Could this problem be warped discs also?