Ford flat plane crank

[Verde]

So it's quite premature because the car has not shipped, but does anyone have a sense of how the new flat-plane 32-valve DOHC V8 from the Mustang Shelby 350 could be fitted to the Ultima? I have an LS7 in there and though it's glorious, there's nothing like a free-breathing proper-firing engine to send a chill up the spine.
It's not likely that I would act, even if possible but one can dream, right? And it's not at all clear that Ford will ever offer it as a crate motor like my LS7.
I had read somewhere that the engine is too wide for the Ultima engine compartment but I never confirmed that. And mating it to the Porsche transmission is an unknown as well...
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[Verde]

Yes, thanks for the reminder. But I've not heard any further news about Ford releasing it as a crate engine, and that was the thread that raised the concern about it's width and raising the CG.
Separately placing a flat-plane crank in to an LS wouldn't solve for my interests without the freer breathing/higher revving capabilities that a DOHC provides though it would sound a lot better. There are growing rumors though about a Corvette C8 with mid-engine debuting sometime next year (though I'm still dubious). Those rumors cite the likelihood of an LS with a DOHC. I can only hope.
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ezakimak said:

Verde,

I know you have seen this thread, you posted in it.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

The block will in all likelihood be the same as the Coyote, and that is well known in the gt40 circles. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has done an adapter plate. There is a drb gt40 builder in qld/oz who is mating a coyote and a G50/52 together. it's probably already been done by Chris/"Flatchat on gt40s.com" here in Oz who does the adaptor plates.

Cad model for the coyote was in previous thread.

Cad for LS is available as well

Just waiting on Ford to release the engine.

[Verde]

chuntington101 said:

There are 4 valve per cylinder heads available for the LS engine. In fact I think Mercury racing, famed for boat engines, are designing a set for the alas that are based in their own engine (9.0ltr v8 4 valve per cylinder and twin turbos).

LPE has also drag raced a 33x cubic inch motor I think that was a flat plain crank and turbo'ed. worked VERY well for them.

Is the new ford engine direct injection? Pretty sure if it is it will be a harder kit car engine than the coyote.

Also see here for the original Ford v8 32 valve DOHC engine that made 500bhp back in the 1930's. Wonder is one would fit in an ultima? Lol

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GAA_engine

I believe it's direct injection. What is it about DI that makes it a greater challenge than the per cylinder port injection in the LS7?
And for me (and to be fair, as I stated in the first post this is mostly just dreaming since I can't imagine removing a perfectly fine LS7 - unless there is a good market for it) I wouldn't have the courage to put together an aftermarket DOHC system. I would rather rely on the level of testing of an auto maker to ensure reliability. But that's me.
And what the heck is this? http://s17.photobucket.com/user/BRAAPZ/media/Gen%2...
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