CO2 will decimate humankind, a clever bloke says so!

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Paraphrasing but pretty close to:

"all the data and the computer models show that if we put this amount of co2 in the atmosphere there's a possibility we'll have a temperature rise of 4 or 5 degrees and decimate civilisation...

claims the media scientist Lord God Brian Cox, on "The Infinite Monkey Cage".

So the science is settled then and mmgw death it is.

And it's fact, as he (oh so subtly, not) got this in in the 'fact' bit before moving to his 'opinion' (we must "..stop!") in a programme claimed to be about balance.

Well worth a listen -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017m14t/The_...

if you are either in love with mmgw as a hoped for lifestyle choice or like having your blood boiled. Also features my favourite voice-box, Sir Paul Nurse ("Worms, what worms?")

I st you not, of course, that's his job. God luv the BEEB!

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Jim the Sunderer said:

Only a tenth? There's lucky.

Can we choose who goes?

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Otispunkmeyer said:

I thought better of Brian cox. He is a favourite of mine when it comes to bbc science docs, but I wouldn't be expecting him to tow the line like this. Little bit of respect gone there.

Afraid he's not just line towing, he's pretty much fervant on the subject and has taken many opportunities for public swipes at polar bear cub eating climate denierannihilaters.

Think he regards anyone who doesn't believe in his oft remarked 'consensus' (I think he said it again in this programme) the same way he does astrologists!

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Shay HTFC said:

Have you considered the option that he isn't just toeing the line, but actually believes what he says?

These threads are infested with paranoia like the whole scientific world is working together on some elaborate hoax.

Got it in one.


V


Please tell Huhne before he bankrupts us...

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Lost_BMW said:

Otispunkmeyer said:

I thought better of Brian cox. He is a favourite of mine when it comes to bbc science docs, but I wouldn't be expecting him to tow the line like this. Little bit of respect gone there.

Afraid he's not just line toeing, he's pretty much fervant on the subject and has taken many opportunities for public swipes at polar bear cub eating climate denierannihilaters.

I think he regards anyone who doesn't believe in his oft remarked 'consensus' (I think he said it again in this programme) the same way he does astrologists!

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Shay HTFC said:

Maybe I didn't make myself clear, but I have no problems with him believing in MMGW. I'm still on the fence myself. I know that's a bit out of kilter around these parts

You were perfectly clear - maybe the dial on your irony meter is clouded?

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Shay HTFC said:

Lost_BMW said:

Shay HTFC said:

Maybe I didn't make myself clear, but I have no problems with him believing in MMGW. I'm still on the fence myself. I know that's a bit out of kilter around these parts

You were perfectly clear - maybe the dial on your irony meter is clouded?

I guess it is

Condensation? I blame global warming.

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Otispunkmeyer said:

the way some of the scientists seem to be co nducting science

Was that deliberate or the most obvious Freudian slip? Brilliant if so...

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Hugo a Gogo said:

to be fair, he does only say 'there's a possibility'

Stop being fair! The BBC we don't want balance...

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Mr Gear said:

Lost BMW has chosen to highlight the word "decimate", but the real word of importance is "possibility". There is a possibility that it will decimate civilisation.

Absolute bullst. Wondered when we'd see you back out of the woodwork to peddle your doom mongering.

Decimate? What a crock. I suppose there is the possibility you don't actually believe this rubbish, in the interest of balance, but then that might signal wilful scare mongering.

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Mr Gear said:

Lost BMW has chosen his words carefully to create the usual hysteria on this topic. It's a sure fire hit, like sticking a picture of princess Diana on the front of the Daily Express, you always get the desired reaction from the audience.

The usual crowds at PHs smugly chortling "look at these fools now!" when actually the joke is on them for being hooked by the same old bait once again.

Oh, I'd check the programme if I were you - do you deny he said this?

I didn't need to select carefully, he did. He deliberately used that phrase/term in a short snippet on climate change, deliberately chosen and added in, as one aspect of the theme, and has form for taking every opportunity to bang on about and promote the 'consensus' and to belittle sceptics.

Edited by Lost_BMW on Tuesday 29th November 23:40

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kerplunk said:

Yes that does rather make the 'science is settled, it's a fact!' rant that Lost_BMW followed it with look off beam. Uncertainty should be acknowledged and be part of the debate but the response of too many so called sceptics is 'no proof = no problem' (cos that's how science works innit!) which is more akin to denialism.

Please quote the evidence of 'rant' (check a dictionary definition if you aren't entirely happy with using the English language precisely) or withdraw that remark.

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Prof Prolapse said:

For those that understand, the evidence is very compelling. Those who don't are either incapable of understanding, ignorant (which can be forgiven if they make efforts to learn) or arrogant. As per the first poster on this thread.

Fortunately, being ignorant, arrogant and/or a bit daft in the head no one really cares what they think anyway. How's that for a quote?

Report made.

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The Excession said:

Lost_BMW said:

Prof Prolapse said:

For those that understand, the evidence is very compelling. Those who don't are either incapable of understanding, ignorant (which can be forgiven if they make efforts to learn) or arrogant. As per the first poster on this thread.

Fortunately, being ignorant, arrogant and/or a bit daft in the head no one really cares what they think anyway. How's that for a quote?

Report made.

Thread ban for the Prof again.... :

Imposed simply because we've had to do it so many times before and still, nothing seems to have changed.

I personally find the statement made by our Prof above contributes little and (perhaps) is simply made to provoke trolling, which is not the way things are done on these threads any more.

Any complaints about this decision can go here




Lost_BMW - YHM.

Thank you sir! Less bothered about any attempt to create offence, more the attempt to side track and derail - the typical ad hom/straw man blah, blah stratagems from a 'usual suspect'.

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chris watton said:

kerplunk said:

Lost_BMW said:

Please quote the evidence of 'rant' (check a dictionary definition if you aren't entirely happy with using the English language precisely) or withdraw that remark.

ok I withdraw my apalling use of the word 'rant' - don't want to upset a denier

Very clever......






Not...

It worked though!

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Mr Gear said:

Eh? It's not me doom-mongering! Just read your original post for the person doing that!

Sorry to call you out, but what you have posted is... utter st. Positively schizophrenic.

Bullst part two...

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thinfourth2 said:

Well who listened to the infinte monkey cage this week?


Well the clever bloke said

"You can never be 100% sure of anything in sciense. If you are 100% sure then its a belief structure not sciense "

Yes I did and had to give out an involuntary guffaw of laughter at the irony/hypocrisy displayed.