UKIP PP broadcast

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A bit cheap and cheerful; but they're certainly starting to sound less like fringe radicals and more like a credible alternative to the 'old three'.

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Puggit said:

I suspect the Tories will be preparing themselves for the normal 'protest votes' - I'm not sure they are fully prepared for quite how large this protest vote is going to be...

No UKIP candidate in my ward for the council elections next month

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AJS- said:

Daniel Hannan would be good.

Absolutely.

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IAmAHorse said:

Farage makes a good speech.
He seems to talk sense in the youtube vids I've seen of him speaking in the Euro parliament.

Funnily enough, having started this thread applauding last night's PPB, his performance this morning, just before 7am on the Today Programme, was considerably less well assured.

Given the Party's growth from single issue drum-bangers to the full political portfolio they peddle today, it was disappointing that he was unable to answer the 'bread and butter' question of what the UK pulling out of Europe would actually look like.

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AshVX220 said:

A vote fr UKIP isn't a vote for labour, it's a vote for UKIP,

I'm afraid it is. UKIP are not going to win an election so all it does is probably engineer another hung parliament.

Good. Perhaps this will encourage some consideration in the Tory party as to why UKIP are now as popular as the Libdems.

And a Tory/UKIP coalition might make the 'compromises' swing to the right 'sensible'.

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Esseesse said:

V8mate said:

Funnily enough, having started this thread applauding last night's PPB, his performance this morning, just before 7am on the Today Programme, was considerably less well assured.

Thanks for the heads up, just listened to this now.

He was fine, the interviewer was a dick and deliberately mistook totally reasonably well made points.

"Freedom of trading, but not freedom of movement of people... I don't understand" - err what is there to understand?

Well, Devil's advocate, what there is to understand is why the EU peeps would agree to one without the other. There's a pretty reasonable likelihood that there could be a spat for a few years - 60s/70s style - where we are left out in the wildnerness.

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Esseesse said:

Thanks for the heads up, just listened to this now.

He was fine, the interviewer was a dick and deliberately mistook totally reasonably well made points.

"Freedom of trading, but not freedom of movement of people... I don't understand" - err what is there to understand?

I also thought that singling out the Poles was rather bad form: makes it too easy for the 'BNP in suits' accusations to be maintained and was certainly a stance which would reduce their appeal to many outside of the Sun audience. Was certainly the wrong thing to say on R4.

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dazsmith69 said:

UKIP have, and always will have my vote.

They are the party of common sense, and the UK's only hope for the future

As you are motoring enthusiasts, their 2012 Manifesto states

We will
Let the people decide on local transport infrastructure
by calling binding referendums.

Reopen local railway lines where needed.

Preserve way-leaves of disused railway lines in
case they are needed again.

Halt widespread over-zealousness in parking
enforcement.

Remove all speed cameras, except those proven to
reduce accidents or demanded by the community.

Provide free parking at all hospitals.

Oppose HS2 (High Speed Rail 2).

Protect free parking for Blue Badge holders.

Protect rural bus services.

To pay for these commitments
We will

Ÿ Tax foreign lorries using British roads.

Ÿ Ensure that road maintenance is more efficient
through better, more competitive tendering

Seems very good to me.

UKIP are a serious party, i think 3rd most popular now growing daily.

Daz

That list is enough to put me off entirely. It is a combination of soundbite politics and pure socialism.

Thanks for posting it though, I learnt something new about UKIP.

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martin84 said:

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That list is enough to put me off entirely. It is a combination of soundbite politics and pure socialism.

Thanks for posting it though, I learnt something new about UKIP.

Out of interest what parts specifically of that list offends you the most?

"Let the people decide..."

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AJS- said:

UKIP to me stand for government that is closer to and controlled by the citizens. Referenda on transport infrastructure is a bit of a strange thing to say, but since it won't happen anyway, I can take it to mean that UKIP won't be spending billions of pounds on a high speed rail link through my back garden without at least asking me first.

Arguably, are you best placed to decide on the merits of such a scheme?

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AshVX220 said:

V8mate said:

AJS- said:

UKIP to me stand for government that is closer to and controlled by the citizens. Referenda on transport infrastructure is a bit of a strange thing to say, but since it won't happen anyway, I can take it to mean that UKIP won't be spending billions of pounds on a high speed rail link through my back garden without at least asking me first.

Arguably, are you best placed to decide on the merits of such a scheme?

Yes, he lives there, it's his "back garden". Why is it so hard to udnerstand that people should have a say about what happens where they live? Whatever happened to governed by the people for the people? Now we have career politicos, which is entirely wrong.

Because it's more important that people from London can go on nice, fast train journeys?