MP's snouts in the trough again..whats the answer
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Building a travel lodge residence (not in the million pound an office style of portcullis house though) and one train ticket a week would put an instant stop to these parasites.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9615992/E...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9615992/E...
rogerthefish said:
Building a travel lodge residence (not in the million pound an office style of portcullis house though) and one train ticket a week would put an instant stop to these parasites.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9615992/E...
Yes shower of grasping tts and the poison dwarf is trying to cover it up!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9615992/E...
Mind some prat will come out with oh if they were better paid they wouldent
feel the need to fiddle.. travel lodge !???Id build a guilitine..
If you want to stop this sort of thing, someone has to sort out the 30-year fudge of MP pay.
Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
ClaphamGT3 said:
If you want to stop this sort of thing, someone has to sort out the 30-year fudge of MP pay.
Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
I'm not sure that really reflects the importance of what they do, to be honest.Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
I know PH land is a bit different, but £250k a year guaranteed is a massive salary for most. I don't think this would attract "better" candidates, it would just attract more money hungry ones. Entering politics for the money is not a good starting point in my view.
Their current £66k + travel and accommodation allows a comfortable life, so why not just give them a fixed London accommodation allowance if they live beyond a certain radius of the HoC, and a mileage allowance for travel by car, reimbursement for flights or train tickets. And no you can't charter a Lear jet to go to Oxford East.
greygoose said:
Digga said:
powerstroke said:
the poison dwarf is trying to cover it up!!!
He should be sacked too. He can't even keep his vacuuous wife under control.As for the MPs, I thought they'd 'got' it after the last round of expenses scandal. Granted, a good junk of the public are pretty dumb - just check out the level of reading and comprehension skills required to read the DM from cover-to-cover and remeber that their readers are fairly literate - but not entirely stupid and the message is getting through to hthem, not just about MPs, but banks, multinational tax-dodgers (businesses and individuals) etc. etc. and it will change opinion.
AJS- said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
If you want to stop this sort of thing, someone has to sort out the 30-year fudge of MP pay.
Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
I'm not sure that really reflects the importance of what they do, to be honest.Pay them a rate that reflects the importance of what they do but stop all expenses and make earning external income whilst drawing a parliamentary salary an offence. They make their own housing and pension provisions and when they leave office they can do what they like but if they use their parliamentary connections for financial gain they are disbarred from all political office for life.
The pay would probably need to be, as a minimum;
Back bencher £250k
PPS £350k
Junior minister £500k
Cabinet/leader of opp £750k
PM £1m
I know PH land is a bit different, but £250k a year guaranteed is a massive salary for most. I don't think this would attract "better" candidates, it would just attract more money hungry ones. Entering politics for the money is not a good starting point in my view.
Their current £66k + travel and accommodation allows a comfortable life, so why not just give them a fixed London accommodation allowance if they live beyond a certain radius of the HoC, and a mileage allowance for travel by car, reimbursement for flights or train tickets. And no you can't charter a Lear jet to go to Oxford East.
its ridiculous that you have council leaders on more than the PM! and is one of the main reason why only rich people end up running the government
On expenses, just scrap the special rules for MPs and make them abide by the same rules everyone else has to.
There is nothing special about working unsocial hours, away from home etc. But no one else gets the ability to do what they do with their expenses.
Perhaps living as everyone else has to might make them think harder on the policy front.
Ref salaries, don't they already get paid 3x the average salary? Or put another way, a salary that sees them in the top 3% anyway? (Without even considering allowances). I'd much rather see other things focussed on - like removing career politicians. Make an entry criteria be that you must have worked in the private sector for at least 5yrs before becoming a politician.
These people are meant to be our leaders. A bit more leading by example would be nice.
There is nothing special about working unsocial hours, away from home etc. But no one else gets the ability to do what they do with their expenses.
Perhaps living as everyone else has to might make them think harder on the policy front.
Ref salaries, don't they already get paid 3x the average salary? Or put another way, a salary that sees them in the top 3% anyway? (Without even considering allowances). I'd much rather see other things focussed on - like removing career politicians. Make an entry criteria be that you must have worked in the private sector for at least 5yrs before becoming a politician.
These people are meant to be our leaders. A bit more leading by example would be nice.
66k plus accommodation is far from bugger all.
And they're in London to represent their constituents in parliament, then go back there, not to go swanning around expensive restaurants with their mistresses and partying with billionaire playboys.
I understand the argument that paying them more reduces their need to find alternative sources of income like fiddling expenses and other forms of corruption, I just don't think it really applies here.
And they're in London to represent their constituents in parliament, then go back there, not to go swanning around expensive restaurants with their mistresses and partying with billionaire playboys.
I understand the argument that paying them more reduces their need to find alternative sources of income like fiddling expenses and other forms of corruption, I just don't think it really applies here.
PugwasHDJ80 said:
66k is bugger all in London- and to boot most council executives get paid more than that.
its ridiculous that you have council leaders on more than the PM! and is one of the main reason why only rich people end up running the government
Is the only answer to that to up MP salaries...its ridiculous that you have council leaders on more than the PM! and is one of the main reason why only rich people end up running the government
AJS- said:
66k plus accommodation is far from bugger all.
And they're in London to represent their constituents in parliament, then go back there, not to go swanning around expensive restaurants with their mistresses and partying with billionaire playboys.
I understand the argument that paying them more reduces their need to find alternative sources of income like fiddling expenses and other forms of corruption, I just don't think it really applies here.
^All of this.And they're in London to represent their constituents in parliament, then go back there, not to go swanning around expensive restaurants with their mistresses and partying with billionaire playboys.
I understand the argument that paying them more reduces their need to find alternative sources of income like fiddling expenses and other forms of corruption, I just don't think it really applies here.
And yes, I also agree with Murph7355 in making them submit reciepts - like the rest of us have to - for all their expenses and that this cannot include lunch. They can live by the rules they impose on every other working person or leave their office AFAIK.
PeanutHead said:
Who checks exspenses ? do they have a finance dept like most companies that do audits etc... or do they have a guy down at the treasury just toping up bank cards limits?
Would be good if they had an independant aduit office that worked in favour of the taxpayer.
They don't have to stump up receipts for anything under £250 AFAIK, so what's to check? A few bills for rent and tax firm accounts?Would be good if they had an independant aduit office that worked in favour of the taxpayer.
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