Lost Prophets singer charged

[Centurion07]

I certainly didn't see that coming!

http://music.uk.msn.com/features/lostprophets-sing...

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The article says charged. What do you mean by formally charged?

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Lewis: That's what I thought. I think even the oldest looking 13 year old would still look young enough for you to be seriously questioning her age.

Eric: Quite right. I don't think any details should be released prior to at least the trial, never mind just being arrested.

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Flying Toilet said:

Makes all this look a bit sinister now huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzgN7efCoE

I knew as soon as I clicked it what it was going to be!

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Trial at the end of the year now.

Facing charges of actual rape, not just planning to.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/06/lostproph...

What happens if he's found completely innocent on all charges? That's a hell of a long time to spend in prison when you're innocent and not even had a trial yet.

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I think he was originally refused bail as with his money & facing charges of this nature he was deemed a flight risk. I don't think that article mentions bail either.

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Trial date set 25th November.

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It was in my OP, but I'll say it again: I certainly didn't see THAT coming! That really is shocking. Talk about throwing it all away, and he really did have it all.

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Gwagon111 said:

ADM06 said:

Why are people mentioning his sexuality? What's that got to do with anything?

Can of worms, well and truly opened .

Not really. If it had been mentioned that he also happened to like cars, then you might have a point, as it is, his sexuality is part and parcel of his sexual makeup.

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Pesty said:

Don't see how that's mentioning his sexuality. They also say he was having sex with underage girls.

Not sure what's important about the sex of one of the babies. They are just reporting what he said.

Confused

It's been mentioned that there are photos of him with other guys. Not sure how true that is though.

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Catz said:

Further depravity. What the hell was going on in his head?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-b...

I like how she says she thought he was truly insane by 2010, yet in 2011 she's asking him to DJ her daughter's party?!

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Gecko1978 said:

its a sexual preference one which few have thoes that do on the whole proably surpress it due to social conditioning nurture v nature and a tiny tiny fraction will act on thoes desires.

I doubt you can change it any more than you could make someone not gay etc.

Nature and nurture will play a part and its likely evolution on the whole has removed many genetic traits of being a peado.

Agreed.

For those that doubt, think about the type of person you're attracted to; brunette, long legs etc etc. Now try and imagine not being attracted to that type. I don't just mean avoiding those types when you go out on the pull but literally not having any feelings whatsoever when you see someone of that "type". Pretty hard to do, right?

Rehabbing a burglar is relatively simple; teach them a trade, get them better qualifications so they can get themselves a half-decent job and earn a living honestly. I would imagine very few of that type of offender do so purely for the thrill so give them another option and the possibility exists that they'll take it.

What possible alternative can you give someone like Watkins that will satisfy him?

Edited by Centurion07 on Saturday 10th August 20:35

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rxtx said:

Cantaloupe said:

Wow, that's a bleak outlook for humankind, so you don't think a person with an addiction can fight that addiction ?

Millions of people have given up fags, booze, gambling, drugs, they now lead normal lives.

That doesn't mean they wouldn't love a ciggie or a pint but, they resist the urge, because they have taken control
of their life .

I would suggest it's entirely possible to resist the urge to watch, collect or indulge in child porn if that person wants to
badly enough.

This is completely different. What you're suggesting is one can change their sexual preferences. This isn't true to my knowledge, or experience.

Exactly. Don't you (Cantaloupe) think if it were possible that there would barely be any homosexual people given how society treats them (far worse in years gone by and things are improving but still...)? Surely most would just "choose" to be straight for an easy life?

The things you mention are not hardwired in the brain in the same way as sexual preference is. Certainly some people have an issue with addiction generally, but they end up making the choice of what they get addicted to.

In no way do you get to choose who or what you find sexually attractive and I personally think it is far more nature than nurture in regards to that.

What you also need to take into account is a person's sense of right and wrong. Our legal age of consent is 16 in the UK. It's older in other countries and younger in others. The point being that it's an arbitrary number essentially plucked out of the air by each individual country's government and when you accept that, it becomes a lot easier to see how someone, even though they know it's illegal in their country of residence, can justify certain things to themselves. Obviously I'm not talking about the extreme end of the offending scale such as Watkins' as there's probably nowhere on the planet that would accept that.