US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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James Wright Foley.

RIP.

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Tbh i'm beyond fking sick of ANY religion of ANY name being bought into this. It's a geopolitical push by spoilt rich aholes who've leant on a supposed class system so they can play in the sand with someone elses blood.

The majority, the VAST fkING MAJORITY of this entire mess could be solved by the outright banning of anyone who believes in any religion being able to have any determining influence. On either side.

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fesuvious said:

s1962a said:

What part of that is unclear?

Nothing, but I still don't see a clear condemnation of the stated aims for a Caliphate. The text clearly states the actions (barbarism) of IS are abhorrent.

That I see.

But I have not (yet) read a condemnation of IS' territorial actions and their stated aim to bring about a caliphate under Shariah.

I'd like to see an Imam come out on TV and clearly say this.
I'd like an Imam to clearly state the Islam does not desire a Caliphate. And by extension see's no need for Shariah across Western countries.

I watched a uk imam do this on bbc news earlier.

The more pertinent question should be why the fk are we giving even the slightest credibility to the opinions of anyone who believes in any god? Some serious growing up as a species needs to happen here.

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WinstonWolf said:

Countdown said:

groucho said:

Countdown said:

I think the point isn't voting in a caliphate or sharia law or whatever. The point is either you have a democracy or you don't. So if the democracy says its ok to shoot grouse on 12th August it's fine. Just because you or I might not approve means nothing. Similarly if the population decides to elect a dictatorship it has the right to do so.

That's how democracies work. If you don't like it, leave.

...and then ends the democracy. That is his point.

And, if that's the will of the people, is it a bad thing?

Yes

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioUS_xwFfXw&sns...

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He needs a hiding. A fking proper one.

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ED209 said:

reports that 20 black hawk choppers heading from Turkey into Isis territory. Has Obama decided to act?

Source?

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TheChampers said:

But there are good and kind and decent people everywhere, whether followers of a religion or not? There are ten houses in the close I live in; two of the families are muslim; devout, decent kind and caring. Just as there were (mine included) decent kind church-going Irish catholic families in Birmingham at the time of the pub bombings in 1974. My Dad, an Irish police man, born in Dublin was one of the coppers on the scene helping the injured; you simply can't generalise to the extent I see on thread after thread in PH.

As a species we need to grow out of making stuff up as an avoidance of practicing critical thinking.

And for fks sake will someone remove cameron? He's beginning to look like the Chamberlain of our time.

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Zyp said:

Gandahar said:

People saying nuke them are starting to sound like US rednecks .....

Brain not heart is always best.

Nice piece by BBC tonight on Alan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29199086

I can't imagine him saying nuke them. You shame his memory.

Top bloke. RIP. We won't forget you.

Well of course, a nuclear device would do no good to the innocents of the region, but tell me, what would you do?
How would YOU deal with these people?

If someone was to ask for volunteers to go and talk to them about civility and compassion, would you be the one to put your hand up and volunteer?

Emotions are running high right now, but to say some comments shame his memory....

There comes a tipping point. I don't believe we're a million miles from it.

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WelshChris said:

Do we think that there are already SAS boots on the ground in Iraq/Syria?

If those boys find the people responsible for these beheadings they won't be "brought to justice"

They've never not been there. Unfortunately this isn't their primary reason for being in the region. The chances of retrieving a hostage are very, very small indeed.

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Magog said:

Channel 4 News reporting that Kabir Ahmed's family are asking why the security services didn't stop him travelling to Syria and joining IS and becoming a suicide bomber, as if it's somehow their responsibility!

Tell them i said to fk off, would you?

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Religion is spiritual acne. As a species we should have grown out of it. ALL of it.