9 year old accidently shoots her instructor with an Uzi!

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http://news.sky.com/story/1324924/shooting-instruc...

I never thought I would be surprised by a shooting incident in America again, but i was wrong.
Absolute madness.

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Amirhussain said:

Not just shot but killed

Why would a 9 year old even have a shooting instructor?!

It's her constitutional right!

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Unless I'm mistaken, when you fire a weapon, the recoil happens AFTER the round has left, so for the instructor to be hit, there must have been at least two rounds? Did she have it on automatic? In which case, it's even worse, not just giving an Uzi to a 9 year, but set it to auto too! Assuming an Uzi can be set to single shot?

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cloggy said:

onyx39 said:

Assuming an Uzi can be set to single shot?

Yes it can.
Had an Uzi as my weapon during Military service.

So not only did they give a 9 year old girl an Uzi to play with, they set it to Auto too.
Priceless.

I know Piers Morgan is pretty much despised by all on here, but he was making a few comments on Twitter about this last night, and some of the stuff coming back was vile.
I actually reported one poster to Twitter, not for what was said about Piers, but about a case connected to NOTW.

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cloggy said:

onyx39 said:

Assuming an Uzi can be set to single shot?

Yes it can.
Had an Uzi as my weapon during Military service.

So not only did they give a 9 year old girl an Uzi to play with, they set it to Auto too.
Priceless.

I know Piers Morgan is pretty much despised by all on here, but he was making a few comments on Twitter about this last night, and some of the stuff coming back was vile.
I actually reported one poster to Twitter, not for what was said about Piers, but about a case connected to NOTW.

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DuncsGTi said:

I may get accused of bad parenting here, but just 2 weeks ago i was teaching my 7yo son how to safely handle a rimfire .22 semi auto. IIRC I was around the same age when my father taught me.

He actually picked it up really quickly and was shooting tight groupings at about 100yds

To be fair, I was an Army Cadet back in my early teens and shot a number of weapons, including a Sterling Sub Machine gun (It was back in the 70's) but I was not 9, I was with a qualified Army instructor, and it was definitely set to single shot.

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JonRB said:

The thing that gets me is that the BBC initially called it a "mishap" in its headline.

US girl, nine, in gun lesson mishap

(Although I notice that they have now changed the headline to 'Arizona nine-year old in Uzi gun lesson accident')

Maybe the initial reports did not reveal that he was dead.
It was still breaking when I was reading about it last night.
Possibly they were trying to reveal as much as they could without actually stating he was dead.

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was chatting to a friend on Facebook about this, he is English, but married an American and moved out there.
He has a keen interest in firearms, so he is certainly not "anti gun:
He posted this a couple of hours ago:

To quote one redneck I heard on the radio here - "If we didn't have guns we'd all be talking English now". Yehaw!!!

Says it all really doesn't it?

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skyrover said:

appropriately and with respect.

In a country where gun's are plentiful and the opportunities are there to correctly utilise them (hunting/target shooting) than it's prudent to teach your children from an early age before they discover them for themselves.

but a 9 year old with a semi automatic weapon?

I saw an article yesterday about us teaching sex education to 7 years old, which I thought was a tad too young, but this?

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JonRB said:

Soov535 said:

My Dad taught me to shoot when I was eight.

He taught me to respect the firearm and how to behave with it. We never has any problems. When my son gets to that age I will teach him.

I was taught weapons handling in the cadets at school at the age of 13, but was already used to shooting air rifles by then.

To this day I am unable to point even a toy gun at someone, nor am I able to hand a gun to someone (or have one handed to me) without checking the chamber is clear.

(Mind you, my dad having an Accidental Discharge of a 410 shotgun that blew a hole through a plate glass window when I was a kid also engendered a lot of respect for safety too. Especially as I was standing next to him at the time)

Prawnboy said:

A nine year old with an Uzi at a joint called burgers & bullets is not respect for the tool, if an instructor had their hand cut off at a place called 'chainsaws & chilli dogs' we would all be asking why a nine year old girl was using a chainsaw for recreation.

That's a fair point.

Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 27th August 10:44

Army Cadets? ATC, or some other Jon? I was ACF.

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Mr Trophy said:

hairykrishna said:

Soov535 said:

We live in a society where all the bad people have guns, and the good people have "never held a gun".

How safe are you feeling?

Actually we live in a society where only a very small fraction of the bad people have a gun.

We've also been brought up in a society to believe that "guns are bad"

That's because we invariably only hear about them when they have been used for bad (or in this case tragic) situations.

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BJG1 said:

Jimbeaux said:

Perhaps shooting the idiot with the machete as he came at him? Bringing a knife to a gunfight frequently proves a bad decision.

I think you've inadvertently just managed to sum up the absolute retardedness of the USA's thinking regarding carrying guns here.

Walking down the street is only a fking gun fight if everyone has guns.

We have a homicide rate of 1 in 100,000 in the UK (that's all methods of murder)

The USA has a firearm related homicide rate on 3.6 in 100,000 (plus an extra 0.4 unintentional or undetermined plus 10.3 suicide)

You can argue it's your right if you like but you CANNOT argue that it is an effective prevention of murder because the numbers very obviously reveal it ends up with more net murders and by a long way.

I realize that this site is ANTI gun, but I do find the figures on here disturbing

http://www.stoptheshootings.org/

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THX said:

There's a video?!

Holy st.

Not of the entire "event" though.

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There's news story on Facebook about this at moment, loads of people saying how they feel sorry for the parents.
fk the parents, they're the ones who put her there!

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Happened again. This time a 2 year old took it out of his mum's bag in Walmart.
See how easy it can happen?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/30/ida...