Police and Crime Commisioners Wow Just Wow

Police and Crime Commisioners Wow Just Wow

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gpo746

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Friday 29th August 2014
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Dead simple has there ever been a title more prone to controversy ?

In South Yorkshire Shaun Right refuses to go even though just about everyone is calling for him to do so after his Rotherham Social Services experiences.
In Lancashire they have a guy who was investigated for expenses irregularities.
Kent is stuck with Ann Barnes who seems completely deluded.
In Bedfordshire Olly Martins has been suspended from the Labour Party
The whole thing attracted sweet FA in the way of votes.
Has there ever been a role more mired in controversy in recent memory ?

gpo746

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Thursday 18th September 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...

The meeting, being held at Rotherham Town Hall, is expected to trigger a formal by-election process.

In the November 2012 South Yorkshire PCC election Mr Wright was elected with 51.35% of voters backing him. The turnout was 14.53%.


Public money it's a bottomless pit to be wasted

gpo746

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Friday 19th September 2014
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In Lancashire the Grunshaw chap seems VERY political.
It's ALWAYS the fault of the tories etc.

gpo746

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Saturday 20th September 2014
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Happen if you kept it to police commisioners you would do better eh ?
We all know plod is losing touch with normal people no real need to rub it in.

gpo746

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Saturday 20th September 2014
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La Liga said:
stuff.........waffle
You keep believing it brother.

gpo746

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Monday 22nd September 2014
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La Liga said:
gpo746 said:
La Liga said:
stuff.........waffle
You keep believing it brother.
And you keep believing your bias and opinions trump data, research and facts. I know which one the intelligent person relies upon.
Cheers mate I don't derail threads and turn them into something else unlike yourself, so maybe I am more intelligent than you may think and maybe just maybe I make my opinions based on real life experiences and common sense.
But hey if that doesn't tally with your "research and your data " which will have a very narrow window applied to it then those opinions and experiences must be all wrong hey.


gpo746

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Monday 22nd September 2014
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Mr La Liga

As it is clear you know best I totally defer to your judgement my own experiences and narrow mindedness should preclude me from having an opinion. I apologise for expressing such an opinion and rest assured that the police are wonderful and totally respected by all decent members of society. if you feel I should serve penitence by maybe washing the mud of the police cars tyres then do feel free to recommend as to where I should apply
You are a giant amongst posters and I feel unable to match you. I realise that the statistics you mention must completely mean that the police force is respected by all and sundry and that anyone who doesn't understand that is either a villain or a complete cretin.
Now whats your view on crime commissioners ?

gpo746

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Friday 26th September 2014
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With respect La Ligla you tend to dismiss any views other than your own as naïve or ignorant.
I wouldn't normally have bothered responding to yet another of your posts but I found your discourtesy in the other thread to be a bit below the belt.

gpo746

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Friday 26th September 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
gpo746 said:
I wouldn't normally have bothered responding to yet another of your posts but I found your discourtesy in the other thread to be a bit below the belt.
In fairness to LL, he's a great deal more polite than many others holding a similar position/POV.
He may well be but I find it odd that he cannot do the courteous thing and correctly attribute quotes before posting and then be unable to correct the errors when it was pointed out. I assume it was done in error which is fair enough but it would have taken him no more than a minute to correct such post

gpo746

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Friday 26th September 2014
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DLT thread page 17
It was sorted by a mod I think. My point was that it (the Saville thing) may well have meant that people who felt they wouldn't be believed were more inclined to come foreward now as a result of that case being publicised

gpo746

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Sunday 5th October 2014
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http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/compl...


"
Fresh problems have rocked the office of Lancashire’s Police and Crime Commissioner after his second in command was accused of misconduct.


The county’s highest ranking officer has filed a complaint over Deputy PCC Ibrahim Master’s involvement in an ongoing investigation.

The Gazette understands police spoke to him concerning allegations of harassment."

gpo746

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Saturday 11th October 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29229692

"Four out of six police forces in the East of England are spending more on police commissioners compared to the old authority system, one by more than 60%, the BBC can reveal.

Freedom of Information requests have found increases in Bedfordshire (9.7%), Cambridgeshire (3.8%), Norfolk (8.62%) and Northamptonshire (61.5%).

Essex and Suffolk saw spending decreases of 20% and 2.7%."

gpo746

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Saturday 11th October 2014
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brenflys777 said:
It's not giving away any secrets as it's all over social media but it appears that officers have (based on whatever information) been reminded of personal security this weekend and the fact their jobs makes them a specific target.

It's fifteen years ago but I've done single crewed response at night with minimal back up in a dodgy area. Several officers on my shift were injured enough to require retirement with an injury on duty. It's never good but at least you knew that you had some support if things went wrong.

Here's a letter from the Avon and Somerset PCC:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/202291/resp...

I would draw particular attention to this point about the lack of benefit to local people from these inconsiderate officers who get injured on duty.

"Therefore, at the moment the only reduction in annual IoD payments is when someone in receipt of an IoD dies. However as more officers leave the force with medical retirements this IoD annual cost continues to rise.

Hopefully this is of interest to you and I would welcome any thoughts that you may have as this is becoming a significant part of the budget that does not provide any servicers to the people of Avon & Somerset"
Not being rude but what was "15 years ago" I assume a large scale issue for the Police as you mention a letter but what event was it
I know the riots were 4 years agoand thought this may be Hillsporough or something but dates wrong so can't work out what went down this time in 1999 ?

Sorry if I sound thick - genuine question not points scoring just baffled.

gpo746

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Sunday 12th October 2014
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s3fella said:
Don't knock the St Johns as you now sound like a jumped up pratt
Bit rude but personally I just think he sounds like a hard done copper.
Now back to Police Commisioners and their worth to society...................