Do you really BELIEVE what politicians say?

Do you really BELIEVE what politicians say?

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BGARK

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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This is a great Ted Talk and easy to compare to our current career politicians, with all their spin and nonsense most will never get people to follow them because they don't truly believe in what they are saying themselves!

http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_lea...

BGARK

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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I think we need to go right back to basics, and you need strong leaders with conviction to rally people together, with a clear and simple message that people can easily buy into.

If we was all dropped onto a desert island, what would we need to survive and grow our small community, I have no doubt that the last priority would be to put a "political system" (whatever than is) in place, or let a politician take charge of our survival!

You cannot discuss this sort of thing with people who have grown up surrounded by similar people pandering and trying to please everyone, they are brainwashed and they are generally on the wrong end of the scale when wanting things to change.

5 years to wait for a change of government in a time of fast moving technology and business is nuts. The whole system needs bringing down. I believe this is possible, and is one example of possible radical thinking that could break the mould.

Don't fix the old system lets create a completely new one!

ps. remember remember the 5th November.

BGARK

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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I think you might be missing the point, its not about contracts, lists, plans or even the how. It is about believing something so passionately that others will follow you.

For example look at how many millions of people believe in sky fairies without any evidence at all.

BGARK

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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Slaav said:
Apologies in advance but would you (of) minded if I don't take your post that seriously?

Think about it, drop ten of us into an island scenario and within a very small time, we would have voted for a 'leader' vs anarchy.
Absolutely, rip it to shreds if you like, I think out of daft ideas sometimes comes great inspiration. Who needs to be serious all of the time.

I agree completely about finding a leader, my point was that it probably would not be a politician that became the leader, if anything they would be the first thing on the menu! (again not necessarily being serious).

BGARK

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Sunday 19th October 2014
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littleguy said:
most of the politicians I have met are doing it for 'the right reasons'
And here in lies one of the biggest issues, if you have gone into a job position straight from school without any other real-world experiences you might well believe that what you are doing is the right thing, those surrounding you also believe they are doing the right thing, look at human nature and the reason cults are formed.

If you try and challenge this viewpoint you are seen as the enemy, and you are vilified for questioning their strange beliefs.

The car-respray analogy was a good one, nothing will change until eventually the wheels fall off and the rest of us are asked to push a bit harder!