12-year-old playing with fake gun shot dead by Ohio police.
Discussion
A tragic case for all concerned.
It's shocking that a child was shot dead for waving a toy gun around in a state where it is legal to wave real guns around.
It's shocking that a child was shot dead for waving a toy gun around in a state where it is legal to wave real guns around.
independant said:
Tamir Rice: 12-year-old boy playing with fake gun dies after being shot by Ohio police
A 12-year-old boy has been shot dead by police in the US as he played with a fake gun in a park.
Tamir Rice, who was black, died of his wounds yesterday in hospital after being shot twice in Cleveland, Ohio, on Saturday.
A member of the public had phoned police saying people in the playground were scared by someone brandishing what looked like a gun.
In a recording released by officials, the caller can be heard saying: “There’s a guy with a pistol…you know, it’s probably fake but he’s pointing it at everybody.
“I don't know if it's real or not."
The 911 responder twice asked whether the boy was black or white before dispatching officers.
When police arrived at the Cudell Recreation Center park, they told Tamir to raise his hands, deputy police chief Ed Tomba said.
When he allegedly took the replica gun from his waistband, an officer fired twice despite the fact the suspected weapon was not pointed at them and no threats were made.
The gun was an "airsoft" type replica that resembled a semi-automatic handgun. Fake weapons normally have an orange safety indicator on the muzzle but it had been removed, police said.
Cleveland police are investigating the shooting and the two officers involved have been placed on administrative leave in accordance with procedure.
Tamir’s father, Gregory Henderson, told local newspaper the Cleveland Plain Dealer that his son was a “respectful” young man and said the police should have tasered him instead of using live ammunition if they felt threatened.
Referring to police, he added: “You shot him twice, not once, and at the end of the day you all don't shoot for the legs, you shoot for the upper body.”
After reviewing the evidence, prosecutors will present the case to a grand jury, which will decide whether the officer was justified in using deadly force against the boy.
A lawyer for Tamir’s family, Timothy Kucharski, said he had gone to the park with friends as normal on Saturday afternoon but did not know the details of what led to the shooting.
“We're ultimately going to find out what happened,” he added.
Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers involved were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.
Tamir’s death has sparked calls for new laws in Ohio to require all BB guns, air rifles and airsoft guns sold in the state to be brightly marked to show they are fake. A similar bill is being implemented in California.
It comes after another black man with an air rifle was shot dead in Ohio in August.
John Crawford III, 22, was killed after a man called 911 to report he was carrying a gun in a Wal-Mart supermarket.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cleveland-police-shooting-boy-with-fake-gun-dies-after-being-shot-by-ohio-officer-9878700.html A 12-year-old boy has been shot dead by police in the US as he played with a fake gun in a park.
Tamir Rice, who was black, died of his wounds yesterday in hospital after being shot twice in Cleveland, Ohio, on Saturday.
A member of the public had phoned police saying people in the playground were scared by someone brandishing what looked like a gun.
In a recording released by officials, the caller can be heard saying: “There’s a guy with a pistol…you know, it’s probably fake but he’s pointing it at everybody.
“I don't know if it's real or not."
The 911 responder twice asked whether the boy was black or white before dispatching officers.
When police arrived at the Cudell Recreation Center park, they told Tamir to raise his hands, deputy police chief Ed Tomba said.
When he allegedly took the replica gun from his waistband, an officer fired twice despite the fact the suspected weapon was not pointed at them and no threats were made.
The gun was an "airsoft" type replica that resembled a semi-automatic handgun. Fake weapons normally have an orange safety indicator on the muzzle but it had been removed, police said.
Cleveland police are investigating the shooting and the two officers involved have been placed on administrative leave in accordance with procedure.
Tamir’s father, Gregory Henderson, told local newspaper the Cleveland Plain Dealer that his son was a “respectful” young man and said the police should have tasered him instead of using live ammunition if they felt threatened.
Referring to police, he added: “You shot him twice, not once, and at the end of the day you all don't shoot for the legs, you shoot for the upper body.”
After reviewing the evidence, prosecutors will present the case to a grand jury, which will decide whether the officer was justified in using deadly force against the boy.
A lawyer for Tamir’s family, Timothy Kucharski, said he had gone to the park with friends as normal on Saturday afternoon but did not know the details of what led to the shooting.
“We're ultimately going to find out what happened,” he added.
Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers involved were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.
Tamir’s death has sparked calls for new laws in Ohio to require all BB guns, air rifles and airsoft guns sold in the state to be brightly marked to show they are fake. A similar bill is being implemented in California.
It comes after another black man with an air rifle was shot dead in Ohio in August.
John Crawford III, 22, was killed after a man called 911 to report he was carrying a gun in a Wal-Mart supermarket.
Randomthoughts said:
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It's shocking that some poor copper had to respond to some scumbag waving a gun around that someone had intentionally modified to remove all obvious signs that it's a fake.
The sooner the world stops looking to excuse stupid behaviour, the better. The most offensive weapon I wandered around with in my youth was a Super Soaker. As a result, nobody shot me.
Entirely deserved by the scrote, and entirely expected of the chip-on-the-shoulder population over there that it was a 'poor, innocent kid who would sit all day eating ice cream and helping old ladies across the road' who was 'brutally murdered by a power-hungry racist cop'.
ks.It's shocking that some poor copper had to respond to some scumbag waving a gun around that someone had intentionally modified to remove all obvious signs that it's a fake.
The sooner the world stops looking to excuse stupid behaviour, the better. The most offensive weapon I wandered around with in my youth was a Super Soaker. As a result, nobody shot me.
Entirely deserved by the scrote, and entirely expected of the chip-on-the-shoulder population over there that it was a 'poor, innocent kid who would sit all day eating ice cream and helping old ladies across the road' who was 'brutally murdered by a power-hungry racist cop'.
So a 12 year old does something stupid and acts irresponsibly and because of this he deserves to die? Perhaps he is responsible for his own fate but to suggest this child actually deserved this is a tad ott imo.
bbc said:
A policeman who shot and killed a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland, Ohio, should be charged with murder, says a judge.
Tamir Rice was shown on CCTV waving a pellet gun outside a recreation centre last November, before being shot twice. He later died in hospital.
Judge Ron Adrine said there were sufficient grounds to prosecute Officer Timothy Loehmann with murder, manslaughter and reckless homicide.
It will now be up to prosecutors to decide whether there will be charges.
Community leaders and activists this week had taken the unusual step of requesting the court to look at the case.
The judge also said another police officer, Frank Garmback, should face criminal charges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33104823Tamir Rice was shown on CCTV waving a pellet gun outside a recreation centre last November, before being shot twice. He later died in hospital.
Judge Ron Adrine said there were sufficient grounds to prosecute Officer Timothy Loehmann with murder, manslaughter and reckless homicide.
It will now be up to prosecutors to decide whether there will be charges.
Community leaders and activists this week had taken the unusual step of requesting the court to look at the case.
The judge also said another police officer, Frank Garmback, should face criminal charges.
article said:
Fifteen months after 12-year-old Tamir Rice was shot and killed by a Cleveland police officer, the city has filed a claim against his estate for the cost of his ambulance ride to the hospital.
The creditor’s claim, filed in Cuyahoga County Probate Court on Wednesday, states that Tamir’s estate is overdue on a $500 payment for “emergency medical services rendered as the decedent’s last dying expense.”
The attached invoice notes requests $450 for “ambulance advance life support” and $50 for mileage.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tamir-rice-shooting-family-sued-over-unpaid-ambulance-bill-of-son-shot-dead-by-cleveland-police-a6866896.htmlThe creditor’s claim, filed in Cuyahoga County Probate Court on Wednesday, states that Tamir’s estate is overdue on a $500 payment for “emergency medical services rendered as the decedent’s last dying expense.”
The attached invoice notes requests $450 for “ambulance advance life support” and $50 for mileage.
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