Why the PH hatred of Call Me Dave?

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In all seriousness, what is it so many PH'ers seem to dislike so much about Cameron? Particularly as he still has the support of the vast majority of the Tory party. It's not like he's suddenly become a one-nation Tory overnight - he has always been one.

In fact so much dislike that it appears (on the surface at least) that some people would prefer Labour to win in order to teach him a lesson.

In my opinion he's done a decent job in the last 5 years against some pretty terrible circumstances (a coalition with a left-of-centre party and an enormous structural and cyclical deficit left behind by Labour). The economy is on the mend without excessive credit stimulus and he's even improved the social fabric with things like gay marriage.

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JustAnotherLogin said:

Yazar said:

He is a fake.


He stands for nothing, has no convictions, believes in nothing.

And at the same he is criticised for things like keeping spending money on foreign aid

It would undoubtedly be politically popular. But he doesn't. Might that be because of his own convictions? If not why is it?

In truth his policies are in general true to conservative history.

They just aren't the convictions or the policies that some very vocal members on here would like. He is undoubtedly on the pro-EU side of the fence, but in truth the Tory party has been (overall) for a long time. He is in favour of green policies, but the Tories tend to side with science so no surprise. He is in favour of business (and hence EU).

The list goes on

Bingo!
Many here haven't a clue about conservatism before 1975 and after 1990.
Cameron is every inch a Tory. Not a Thatcherite Tory sure, but very much a traditional Tory.

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Yazar said:

Reason number #9765

Call me Dave predictably comments innapropriately on the Clarkson situation.

The sitting PM can't defend someone on an action of whose facts are mere heresay, more so when he is a known friend so clear bias.

Cameron has a habit of it though- part of the "I'm one of the plebs" stratgey.

One the one hand you criticise Cameron for not cutting enough, then criticise him for cutting defence spending too much.

You also accuse him of having no backbone, and now criticise him for standing up for a friend.


Your debating ability is questionable at best when such hypocrisy is apparent.

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Yazar said:

oyster said:

One the one hand you criticise Cameron for not cutting enough, then criticise him for cutting defence spending too much.

You also accuse him of having no backbone, and now criticise him for standing up for a friend.


Your debating ability is questionable at best when such hypocrisy is apparent.

erm yes. ok

If it turns out that Clarkson was in the wrong and the actual words used were nasty and actions unprovoked, the Prime Minister has condoned that behaviour. Do you not see that is more important than him trying to weasel votes after seeing the petition?

Edited by Yazar on Thursday 12th March 10:00

Weasel votes? You can't let anything lie can you?

Here's a suggestion. On May 8th, do not switch on any media or read any papers. You will just get too angry whatever the result.

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Yazar said:

So you think it is ok for the leader of the country to condone what may turn out to be unprovoked and unjustified agression in the workplace?

I may have misheard what he said to be honest.

Did he actually say he condones it?
I though he just said Clarkson was a big talent and a friend.