Cameron and the Human rights act

Cameron and the Human rights act

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cirian75

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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What the act covers

Right to life

Right not to be tortured or subjected to inhumane treatment

Right not to be held as a slave

Right to liberty and security of the person

Right to a fair trial

Right not be retrospectively convicted for a crime

Right to a private and family life

Right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion

Right to freedom of expression

Right to freedom of assembly and association

Right to marriage

Right to an effective remedy

Right not to be discriminated against

The right to the peaceful enjoyment of one’s property

Right to an education.

Duty of the government to provide free and fair elections.



Anyone else think Cameron's plan to try a ditch it combined with Teresa Mays new proposed new anti terror law is very bloody dangerous?

cirian75

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We all know most of the above rights will be in his new proposed bill of rights

It's "will he remove or some modify the above rights?" that worries people

cirian75

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ofcorsa said:
cirian75 said:
What the act covers

Right to life

Right not to be tortured or subjected to inhumane treatment

Right not to be held as a slave

Right to liberty and security of the person

Right to a fair trial

Right not be retrospectively convicted for a crime

Right to a private and family life

Right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion

Right to freedom of expression

Right to freedom of assembly and association

Right to marriage

Right to an effective remedy

Right not to be discriminated against

The right to the peaceful enjoyment of one’s property

Right to an education.

Duty of the government to provide free and fair elections.



Anyone else think Cameron's plan to try a ditch it combined with Teresa Mays new proposed new anti terror law is very bloody dangerous?
Prior to 1998 the world was a terrible place eh?
In Northern Ireland it was, the HRA 1998 is an intergal part of the Good Friday agreement!

cirian75

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Friday 15th May 2015
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so no human rights for criminals?

not every criminal is a murder, rapist, armed robber etc by the way.

cirian75

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HD Adam said:
cirian75 said:
so no human rights for criminals?

not every criminal is a murder, rapist, armed robber etc by the way.
But what about the ones who are and avoid deportation because of their right to a family life under Article 8 because they've got a cat or something?
It swings both way, rock and a hard place, the current act is easy to abuse by some really unpleasant types

But the proposed replacement makes it way way to easy to deport genuine asylum seekers to face death and torture.


Looking at the current act and doing some well thought out amendments would seem to be a better idea.

cirian75

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This is what really make huge minefield

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Agreement...

Does Cameron and co really want to mess with that !?

cirian75

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currybum said:
williamp said:
Lot of panic over nothing. Read thIs

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11356512/...
So you are guaranteed basic human rights unless the government decided you shouldn’t have them…sounds like a great idea.
Yes, what is criminal enough to make you loose them, and who decides what is criminal.

answers on the back of your boarding to where ever your grandfather came from while G4S throw on that plane.

cirian75

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MarshPhantom said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
I think it is a good idea, get a Bill of Rights which is right and fair primarily for the people of Britain.
Why do human right need to be tailored specifically for Britain?

confused
The key is the removal of the word human

Human makes it universal, remove it and well, its not universal any more

cirian75

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Friday 15th May 2015
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It was mainly written for the Good Friday agreement.

The RUC did not have a good reputation, in fact it had a bloody awful reputation of collusion with the Loyalists

If you was Catholic, you could not depend on the RUC to protect your rights even though your a British citizen.


The HRA 1998/Good Friday agreement along with the massive reform of the RUC into the PSNI is the reason we've have 17 years of relative peace in Northern Ireland.

cirian75

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Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Does not change the fact that its an integral part of the Good Friday agreement

The Unionist and Republic terrorists had the wind taken out of the sails with that act.

If any one thinks they are full disarmed, they are a fool.



Also there are several test cases going to court over the bedroom tax and its application to disabled people under the discrimination part of the HRA 1998.


Cameron n co are trying to ditch the HRA before these cases get to the high courts.

Edited by cirian75 on Tuesday 26th May 07:36