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AJS-

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Suppose for a moment you are David Cameron. It's a Friday morning in 2017, the votes have been counted and it's a resounding win for the Out campaign. Britain is leaving the EU.

Quite aside from the fact that Cameron may well quit in the event of such a result what are your priorities in terms of new trading arrangements, replacing or removing EU regulations and otherwise untangling our country from 44 years of EU membership?

AJS-

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Monday 25th May 2015
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I don't doubt that the opportunity is there, I just don't see much being done about it by either side. Cameron is jetting around talking to EU leaders this week apparently renegotiating the In option. UKIP and others have made a strong case against the EU but I don't see any positive alternative being advanced. What trade arrangements would we pursue with the EU, the US, China, others? Which reregulations could we wave goodbye to immediately? What immigration laws would we implement?

AJS-

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Cheese Mechanic said:
I'm of the opinion that our economy, has the opportunity to absolutely fly.

A free market low tax model, has spectacular potential. After of course, succesfull exit negotiations have been agreed and fulfilled.
Completely agree. The question is what is feasible and will be attractive to the public. So far I Have seen very little discussion of this, so it seems we are going into the referendum with the Out vote representing a huge leap into the unknown for most of the public. I'm actually fine with that because, as you say it's a great opportunity to build a free market, low tax country. However I am fairly sure the public will not vote for it.

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jurbie said:
Nothing will change regarding the single market because it is separate to the EU and we'll stay in it by joining the European Economic Area. The free movement of goods and labour will continue as before.

https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea
Except it is not clear that we would default to EEA membership. One of the big selling points of leaving the EU has been the freedom to make our own trade deals with other countries and halting the free movement of people to control immigration.

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Out to what Dog Star?

I agree that many people don't like the EU but there has to be an attractive alternative for people to vote for. This is what I don't see anyone really articulating.

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ClaphamGT3
So by the same token why don't politicians actually make the case for a federal Europe? I agree that this is quite obviously what is on the table but Cameron for one with his talk of renegotiation and his assertion that immigration can be controlled within the EU is not making it.

s2art
Under WTO trading terms? EEA? Totally independent?

As for habeus corpus and the rest, much as I support all that can it really last beyond the next terrorist scare or paedophile or racist outrage?