The National Barrier Asset

[ManFromDelmonte]

According to the BBC we are sending a 9ft high plastic fence to France to stop the migrants being able to get on the trucks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33316358

In the article, it states that the barrier is designed to protect against vehicle borne suicide attacks. Now I am sure it does this very well but how is it going to stop immigrants from climbing into trucks? 9ft is easily scalable by anyone vaguely athletic and with a bit of help, by anyone not particularly athletic.

Would a 9ft fence be enough to stop you if you wanted to escape from a country?

[ManFromDelmonte]

toohangry said:

I imagine that non-climbable was part of the design criteria. Don't you?

Why would a barrier designed to stop vehicle borne suicide attacks have non-climable as part of the design criteria?

[ManFromDelmonte]

wombat172a said:

Maybe it was also designed to stop vest-wearing pedestrian borne suicide attacks?

One look at it tells me it wasn't.

[ManFromDelmonte]

toohangry is cracking me up. Worryingly, I don't think he/she is joking.

From his/her first post to his/her last, it's all pure comedy.

[ManFromDelmonte]

toohangry said:

AJS- said:

It washes with me. It's pretty clear that what he said was an extreme logical conclusion of the idea that disincentives will discourage migrants. He wasn't saying that is what we should actually do.

Do you disagree with the idea of providing a disincentive?

It's pretty clear how he feels about people, regardless of whether he would actually pull the trigger.

Of course I don't disagree with providing a disincentive. As ever, there are more acceptable means that shooting and shelling civilians though. Lack of benefits and/or bigger restrictions on eligibility to work would probably do it.

You know those road safety adverts where some blokes brains get smashed onto the windscreen as he is driving without a seatbelt? They don't actually have to kill a man in a car crash to make that advert.

HTH.

[ManFromDelmonte]

KarlMac said:

Hello, employee of a fencing manufacturer here. /Waves.

Anti-climb mesh is to do with gaps between the line and cross wires. You can't get fingers/toes in the gaps. Tops are normally electrified or concertina barbed to stop people going over the top. Not a great deal you can do against ladders though.

Its not designed to be fix and forget and should be used with other systems, such as perimeter detection and actual guards.

These panels can take an eye-watering level of punishment, part of the testing for ours involves firing numerous RPGs at it.

Interesting. In the pictures of the NBA in action, I can't see any signs of electrification or concertina wire and at only 9ft I don't know if the anti-climb mesh would do anything to stop me climbing over. Possibly it's deployment in France will include some of these additional features.

[ManFromDelmonte]

trashbat said:

KarlMac said:

Not a great deal you can do against ladders though.

IME, something that works well: snakes.

[ManFromDelmonte]

trashbat said:

I'm more puzzled by the story in the OP which says that the fence manufacturer is secret, and the fence is kept in a secret location.

I thought the same and after abbot 2 minutes research, I found the manufacturer and a press release stating how many KM of fencing the Home Office had ordered. I think there is a bit of sensationalism going on to make it seem more mysterious than it is.