Police appeal after female cyclist pushed to ground by ped

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Interesting incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11822...

Seems innocuous, ped seems to accuse female rider of flipping the bird, but then full bore shoves her into the road. Which is pretty shocking behaviour.

The images are pretty clear so one imagines he'll be identified soon.

Edit to add easy youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDqs_p1jcPY

Edited by hornetrider on Tuesday 25th August 13:12

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Mr Will said:

Zod said:

I wonder what the reaction on PH would have been if the woman had been driving a car and had sounded her horn at the guy who had then kicked the side of her car.

^ This.

If she'd been in a car and he'd so much as touched it then people would be calling for his head. Yet because she's a cyclist it was obviously somehow her fault. This place dismays me sometimes.

I think a more appropriate analogy in this case would be.... car driver flips birdy finger at ped who then kicks car in response.

I'd imagine the balanced view might be that two bellends unite.

Should reiterate however I absolutely do not condone pushing the rider into the street. On the contrary I think it's reprehensible and I hope they catch the guy. However, would it have happened if she hadn't flipped him the bird?

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oyster said:

I wonder why he lamped her. 99.9% of people wonder it too. As will the police. As will a judge. Only neanderthals think otherwise.

Indeed.

The nuance here is would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird? What do you think?

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NEEP said:

hornetrider said:

Indeed.

The nuance here is would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird? What do you think?

So, you feel assault is justified by someone flipping the bird? Best of luck with that defence.

You've failed to understand what I have written. Just to clarify once more because you don't seem to understand. I am not in any way justifying him attacking her in any way.

I'll repeat the question for you, s-l-o-w-l-y:

Would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird?

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NEEP said:

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hornetrider said:

NEEP said:

hornetrider said:

Indeed.

The nuance here is would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird? What do you think?

So, you feel assault is justified by someone flipping the bird? Best of luck with that defence.

You've failed to understand what I have written. Just to clarify once more because you don't seem to understand. I am not in any way justifying him attacking her in any way.

I'll repeat the question for you, s-l-o-w-l-y:

Would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird?

I think he is the sort of moron that would strike out if you looked at him funny.

So you agree that if the cyclist did not provoke him, she wouldn't have been assaulted?

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ewenm said:

What about his provocation of her by his initial action? Or does that not count?

What are we talking about as 'the initial action' - him crossing the road? As far as I can tell, sequence of events is:

1. Him crossing the road aiming behind her it seems to me.
2. Her saying 'please don't try and knock me off' (don't know why she says this, for the benefit of her headcam YT fans?)
3. Him saying 'Shut up' plus something unintelligible may be 'you fking muppet'
4. Cyclist continues
5. Bloke sprints up and shouts at her for giving him the finger, then pushes her off.

Fair summary?

If that is a fair summary, I'd say the initial action provoking this event is her saying don't knock me off, which strikes me as an odd thing to say.

I guess my point is, there's a lot of DCWs/HCWs (work it out) going around abusing others whom they've perceived to have committed errors. Many have said it's only a matter of time before they shove the camera in the wrong person's face, because if you choose to engage mops in this way sooner or later it's going to bite you on the arse.

Another example is on another thread where that vlogger on the motorbike who's a bit shouty gets set about by the two pizza delivery moped riders. He bites off more than he can chew and similarly is taking a big risk for the sake of a few YT views.

IMO.

Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 26th August 14:56

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walm said:

If she had chosen to take the tube that day, she wouldn't have been assaulted.
What's your point?

Well, I guess that depends if she decided to flip the bird to someone similarly unhinged on the tube, now doesn't it?

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NEEP said:

My turn as you seem to be as thick as the moron in the video. Flipping the bird is not a reason to assault someone..

Finally! So you agree that flipping the bird in this instance caused him to assault her. I'm glad we got there in the end. No bird, no assault.