Are the left wing less tolerant of the views of others?
Discussion
crankedup said:
The few left wing posters that appear occasionally are usually massed upon by the opposing POV.
I wonder why that might be? Shall we examine, again, your once weekly claims that Thatcher destroyed British industry and manufacturing? How about Matt Nunns recent idea for cutting income tax on the 'poor' with a 100% tax rate on all income over £100,000? How about Cammorerons comedy tirade against those nasty corporate tax dodgers and their selfish employees. Come up with something that isn't obviously wrong and you'll get a much more numerically balanced discussion, for example the minimum wage/tax credit thread. Sorry cranked but the reason you might feel ganged up on is the same reason the electorate ganged up on you; your 'facts' are transparently wrong and your ideas, for the most part, are not credible. anonymous said:
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Of my UK friends only the underacheiving public school lefties post anything remotely political, the usual guff from anti Thatcher to anti Gove. Ironically of my US friends only the republicans post anything political again the usual guff from Obama taking away their guns and making them have healthcare which they already had. Frankly in my small sample of friends the British left and the American right appear to be as dumb as one another.otolith said:
crankedup said:
Shame that so many young people can't afford to by those ten ex council houses, and if they were still available to rent from the council maybe that would be ten families housed in a proper house rather then B&B.
But the waiting list would be ten places longer, because the ten families currently living in the ten ex-council houses would now need council houses too. You haven't thought this through.Scenario A:
There is a council house. The nasty witch sells it to the tenant. The following year someone else needs a council house and there isn't one.
Scenario B:
There is a council house. The following year someone else needs a council house and the only one has a tenant in it.
Does it really need explaining, again, that the only thing that changes the outcome is building another council house? She might have prevented councils using the proceeds to build more, but if there had been no sales and no sale proceeds there wouldn't have been any building in any event. Why is this so difficult? In any event I don't think Thatcher has prevented anyone building any more for the last 25 years has she?
Randy Winkman said:
fblm said:
Randy Winkman said:
Is that what the sieg heil salutes are about - economic policy?
Perhaps a quick google of National Socialism might help? Trying to associate the Tories with Nationalism is pretty desperate.It was you holding them up as an example of 'right wing hate' more closely aligned with the Tories than Labour, when they are nothing more than racists and nationalists and that if anything they are further left than New Labour. Nice try
Randy Winkman said:
Why some people are being so defensive of the word "right" is beyond me.
Could it be because you are trying to label a bunch of racist nationalists as 'right' wingers in a sad attempt to position them as extreme Tories, despite the unfortunate detail that many of their other social and economic policies would make Corbyn proud? crankedup said:
Your ridiculously simplistic Scenario A and B completely ignores real life situations, like can't afford to buy - tough. Can't afford private rent - tough. You see that these are the reasons why so much taxation is being spent on housing welfare.
So simple and yet you missed the point entirely. There's only so many times I can be bother explaining that todays housing shortage, if it exists, is not the result of a change of ownership 30 years ago but a lack of building publicly or privately since. crankedup said:
Based upon some of the vitriol from right-leaning members in this forum I'm inclined to disagree.
You've changed cranked. You used to present the LibDem line with some humour and thought, now you just come across as a repetitive, whiny victim. Was it the Co-op bank or the elections? Honestly the stuff about Thatcher, house prices, manufacturing, its been done before, over and over and over, nothing has changed, move on.XM5ER said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/03/feminis...
It seems that they are equally intolerant of each other.
I had to laugh at breitbart this week-on an article criticising college humour for not allowing comments on a YouTube video and decrying the 'left shutting down opposing opinions' they then had many commenters saying that they'd in fact been banned or had comments deleted for putting down left leaning or contrary opinions in the breitbart comments. Breitbart of course took notice of this-and deleted and banned several of the people in that comment thread :Rolleyes:It seems that they are equally intolerant of each other.
Given as well the way that Britain first acts with regards to deleting and barring opposing opinions I think it's just that people don't like being told they're wrong
longblackcoat said:
JMGS4 said:
they just shout and scream and/or cast aspersions if you don't happen to agree with their mostly odious views.
Some might say that there's a district display of precisely that behaviour on this very thread.That actually describes the news politics and economics forum perfectly.
Vocal Minority said:
To be honest I think threads like this just serve to demonstrate that the left and the right are equally intolerant of other peoples views.
People say that those on the left get aggressive etc (and that's a point I know several who do) however the right are the same, but its sort of smug condescension rather than aggression (which you see all the time round these 'ere parts). Its not any more tolerant!
We are all as bad as eachother in our own ways.
Aye!People say that those on the left get aggressive etc (and that's a point I know several who do) however the right are the same, but its sort of smug condescension rather than aggression (which you see all the time round these 'ere parts). Its not any more tolerant!
We are all as bad as eachother in our own ways.
Don't many/ most people have views and beliefs that transcend both camps? Therefore those that seek to identify as left or right are more confrontational, more dogmatic, perhaps less rational and more intolerant of views that differ from their own?
The irony is that milo seems to think nothing of marshalling his minions to direct racist/misogynistic abuse, or 'dox' or hack or use any number of online intimidation methods to stop people who he disagrees with from speaking out.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 3rd February 07:39
durbster said:
The Don of Croy said:
Election resurrection!
Watching the coverage of the Tories manifesto launch, and there's a demo outside (as seen on TV) shouting at anyone who'll listen that not only are 'they' unwelcome in t'north, but they shouldn't be allowed there...
Did any other party manifesto launch 'attract' such a demo?
Have you considered the perspective? Think about the actual impact these policies have on people.Watching the coverage of the Tories manifesto launch, and there's a demo outside (as seen on TV) shouting at anyone who'll listen that not only are 'they' unwelcome in t'north, but they shouldn't be allowed there...
Did any other party manifesto launch 'attract' such a demo?
If a set of policies looks likely to destroy the industry that your community depends on, or remove your fundamental working rights, or push you into poverty with no obvious means of escape, or take away a disability lifeline that you or your family member are wholly dependent on, you may justified being upset.
Then consider how badly affected your typical Tory supporter will be by any Labour policy? Nobody's going to go raging through the streets of London risking arrest because they might be forced to postpone their Chamonix skiiing holiday for a few weeks.
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