Top Gear producer to sue Clarkson

Top Gear producer to sue Clarkson

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34809...


"The producer punched by Jeremy Clarkson is suing the former Top Gear host and the BBC for racial discrimination."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34809...

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Coldfuse said:
Do we think he has done it because Clarksons new job is lucrative? Not that i blame him, i'd probably do it aswell.


Bullying and harassment is serious, no one goes to work expecting to have this happen to them it really doesn't matter if the 'Boss' is rich and famous or just an avarage earning lower manager it should not happen. Bullying and harassment affects an individual and their home life and loved ones its just not acceptable.

I doubt if its because Clarkson has a new high paid job he is a high net worth individual anyway, these cases are always based on facts and not how much an individual can claim against the companies insurance (its rarely an individual that pays)

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Driver101 said:
He's sat on this for a while.

Did he ever press charges for assualt? I thought he said he didn't want to to do that?

So he's not wanting a criminal conviction, just financial compensation?
You don't know what he wants, and Battered said "Appantly Tymon is still employed by the BBC. I hear he may presently be signed off sick". These cases can take months to come to a hearing ( as i know first hand) so you shouldn't jump to conclusions.

And there is no dispute that Clarkson was at fault as he admitted it:

Today's comments were the first interview he has given - and marked a return to the BBC - since he was sacked for punching producer Oisin Tymon in a row over a hot dinner during filming.
He told the Radio 2 show, hosted by Evans: 'It was my own silly fault so I can hardly complain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3090698/Th...

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Theophany said:
Who is Sue Clarkson?
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xjay1337 said:
I agree.

Funny this has come to light within a month or two of the new TV deal being announced......
How many times has a punch up ended up with a warning / caution?

They're grown men, Oisin needs to grow up and move past it. He's not feeling any pain or torment from the situation at all.

CHA CHING.
The BBC are saying The case centres on "verbal abuse" that accompanied a physical attack during which Clarkson struck Tymon in March.

Acas outlines Bullying and Harassment:

Examples of bullying / harassing behaviour could include:

spreading malicious rumours, or insulting someone
exclusion or victimisation
unfair treatment
deliberately undermining a competent worker by constant criticism

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1864

It will be interesting to see the outcome

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Corpulent Tosser said:
If my boss punched me in a work environment I would want the to pay.
+1

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Freddy88FM said:
Given the guy was not a star, had had no time in the spotlight at all and was suddenly the target of a endless vitriol from hundreds of thousands of 'fans' online for something that was far from his fault, it really isn't that odd that he'd be suffering with some kind of psychological trauma.

He was pinned as the guy who took down the BBCs most popular show and faced such unbelievable levels hate. It was insane. If I were in BBC management I would have enforced time off and counselling for the guy. This is in my opinion likely to be what actually has happened. Aside from the help it will give him, it also goes some way to removing the burden of future psychological issues the guy may face down the line from the BBC.

This is not about his split lip!!
Well said

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PGNCerbera said:
....burden of psychological issues.....really??

Look. This concept/viewpoint is so far removed from where I sit I am staggered. But perhaps this is the way of things these days. I'd suggest Oison needs a bloody good hiding.......

Joke. Btw. That last bit.
Just because you may not have experiences of Psychological or physical trauma does not make it less real. Maybe one day you will be stressed I hope not but you could do

As an aside did you know that:

1 in 8 men in the UK were diagnosed with a mental health problem
On average 13 men each day take their life through suicide in the UK
Male suicide rate in 2013 was the highest since 2001
https://uk.movember.com/mens-health/mental-health

None of these guys are wimps

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Driver101 said:
Clarkson wasn't the boss, he was a fellow employee.
So your saying there is no hierarchal order within the BBC? they are all employees with the same grade? I think you will find that the salary scale alone would make Clarkson the boss which is also why he was getting someone else to get the evening meal. But I could be wrong maybe its the other way around.

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Driver101 said:
Assaulting a fellow employee merits sacking.
terminating a contract of a well connected and 'respected' senior member of the team is........well terminating of a contract..not renewing the contract as expected in layman's terms = Sacked! Fired! no new contract the guy had brought himself and the corporation in to bad light and he had to go......end of ..............sacked wink

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Rs2oo said:
If Clarkson punched me in the face I would knock him out not go crying to my mummy. Tymon should grow a pair and be a man unless of course he bats for the other side. Thank fk I was born in the 60's and bought up by non-liberal straight forward people. Boo-hoo, the unfit 53 year old man punched me. Get a life you n***e.


He is being a Man, and sorting it appropriately if your a thug or just feel everything can be sorted with your fists go ahead and see where that gets you.....Dont mistake intelligence as weakness having worked with a couple of special forces guys I found them to be the most calming influences when things were getting heated. Whats being brought up in the 60's got to do with anything other than your age?

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Ved said:
Some very odd comments here. If you were assaulted at work, you'd just shrug and get on with it? I can't see the reasoning behind not proceeding as he has done.

No, any self respecting person would hit him back, probably shake hands and have a pint together later not wet my pants and try to get some easy cash. 37 year old acting like a 17 year old. Clarkson is an arse but at least he's old school not a mummy's boy...
Well its a jaded and old fashioned view you gents have it is against the Law to use Violence at work end
of.......http://www.hse.gov.uk/violence/preventing-workplace-harassment.pdf

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bhstewie said:
I think it means you can't be a man if you're gay, or something like that confused
Really? think some may get a surprise

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DonkeyApple said:
Of course. But this chap is attempting to claim that while he was happy to be paid as a senior member of staff on a show that regularly and clearly deliberately courted controversy by pushing the modern boundaries of acceptability in terms of 'racism' he isn't happy to have it pointed at him personally.

Of all the things he has an absolute right to be suing over, this one matter seems to be the element that he has no right whatsoever to complain about given his complicit actions of the past.
Interesting thought except he wasn't the executive producer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Wilman

'Andrew "Andy" Wilman (born 16 August 1962) is an English television producer who is best known as the former executive producer of the Top Gear show, from 2002 to 2015. He was responsible for much of the show's style and humour, along with Jeremy Clarkson. He has also presented segments of the original Top Gear. He's primarily responsible for the creation of The Stig. Wilman and Clarkson were both educated at Repton School'.

The key people responsible for the 'humour' and Format according to Wiki is Andy Wilman and Jeremy Clarkson so you may not be wholly correct

Edited by Toaster on Sunday 15th November 21:57