Autumn Statement 2015

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Welshbeef

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Cannot see a thread yet on this - so what are people thoughts about what will happen?

Welshbeef

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It would be interesting if he came out with:-

"Well in the summer I offered up the £4.4billion in Welfare cute you have rejected them as such given all departments are stretched to the limit then we are increasing income tax & VAT, sadly this isn't what you want to hear but you have closed down the alternate options. We physically cannot tax the bankers as their whole salaries do not even breach £1billion and we already take 57% away from them".

Or we are removing tax free threshold to £0 to show that we are all in it together.

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Rude-boy said:
I see this coming...
Economically it's not the smartest move - your instantly creating inflation in the economy and also taking spending money away from the poorest. Fuel duty hits the poorest the most the higher earners it's meh really

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BoRED S2upid said:
Welshbeef said:
Economically it's not the smartest move - your instantly creating inflation in the economy and also taking spending money away from the poorest. Fuel duty hits the poorest the most the higher earners it's meh really
That all depends if increased fuel duty adds much to bus fares. I doubt the poor will be hit that hard because of it.
Um im assuming the poor buy food drink clothes etc? If so distribution costs increase and retail price goes up too. So yep they do take the biggest hit.

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And we're off.

Welshbeef

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Working tax credits reform scrapped!

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Dave_ST220 said:
Eric Mc said:
We are seeing the beginning of the end of the Self Assessment tax return.
confused What would take its place?
"Live" tax code changes ie payrol feeds directly into HMRC so they can amend tax code month by month to ensure it is correct.

Tax at source for sale of capital assets hmm.
Drastically less work for accountants

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Pensions now.

New single tier up to £155.65 per week or £8,093.80 per year wink

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Smollet said:
Welshbeef said:
Pensions now.

New single tier up to £155.65 per week or £8,093.80 per year wink
Provided you've pain into it long enough. It should be based on how long you've paid or how much you've paid in. I'm in the situation where I paid a lot in but not for enough years so I won't even qualify for that figure. I'll get about £112 pw.
So £5.8k but you didn't work long enough to qualify. How many years out of interest? None the less £485 for an individual from 65yo for life add in your other half plus any private pensions no mortgage no need for 2 cars and the ability to go on holidays out of peak season means a good lifestyle.

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Ganglandboss said:
What was that? I just caught '...while his front bench contributes to comedy!'.
Superb

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Eric Mc said:
Additional Stamp Duty on properties bought by "buy to let" landlords.

The attack on rental properties continues.
Only for new ones bought and only from April 2016 onwards so buy more now to save £15k+++

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Eric Mc said:
6 April 2016 is only about 17 weeks away. You would need to get your skates on right now if you wanted to beat this deadline.
Or buy a house as your principle residence and let out your old house then repeat thus only ever paying residential stamp duty wink

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Rovinghawk said:
So 3% rent increases to cover the cost- tenants will love that.
3% rent rise isn't a lot
3% extra stamp duty on purchase price is.


That said all it does is reduce the capital gains tax you'll pay in the end your simply front loading it.

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Justayellowbadge said:
Welshbeef said:
Or buy a house as your principle residence and let out your old house then repeat thus only ever paying residential stamp duty wink
Nope, it's on 'additional' properties, including holiday homes. If you own one already, it applies.
If you own one already it doesn't apply they don't retrospectively tax you stamp duty on houses you have bought in the past only future purchases post 1/4/16.

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johnxjsc1985 said:
I know he is speaking but i cant for the life of me understand a word of what he is saying.
Well Osbourne introduced him rightly the comedy act smile.

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Bluebarge said:
Welshbeef said:
If you own one already it doesn't apply they don't retrospectively tax you stamp duty on houses you have bought in the past only future purchases post 1/4/16.
But it will affect the sale price/appetite for buying. A surprisingly Socialist policy for the Conservatives which will affect pension pots (again).
So will impact every home owner possibly pushing some into negative equity due to decreasing market values?

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audidoody said:
Welshbeef said:
Only for new ones bought and only from April 2016 onwards so buy more now to save £15k+++
Am I missing something here?

Buy a property as a main residence paying normal stamp duty. Live in if for six months. Rent out existing property. Move back in six months later renting out the second pad.
Nope it's clear if you increase your property holding then you pay an additional 3% on the one your buying.

Actually that's a real fker so you say buy 2/3 bed houses as buy to let but then go for a 6 bed £2m pad then that pad gets stung with an additional 3% stamp duty hit.

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gibbon said:
How about if you own a buy to let, and you want to sell and move your primary residence, is that than standard stamp plus 3%?

That will really hurt many people.
Yep that's it exactly as I flagged earlier.

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gibbon said:
Welshbeef said:
Yep that's it exactly as I flagged earlier.
Wow. That will kill liquidity in BTL and high end residential property.
Stamp duty change is Apr 2017 smile.

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
I can only assume there will be some sort or PPR exemption.

It would otherwise be absurdly punitive for someone with one 200k flat they let, moving from a 3mil to 3.5mil family home, say.
But the book is out already and so far no one here or elsewhere has picked up on exceptions of PPR if so its a fker for sure.