Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

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Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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We are living in an age of blatant propaganda - perhaps it was always so(?).
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).
Interesting how media is clickbait-infected in order to generate traffic.

You dont have to comment on the issue, just the warped or inaccurate portrayal.

My starter is this on the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35750868
Classic propaganda :
choose smiley face
headline earlier said "being thrown out for a jibe." (now changed)
Called declaring intending to kill a presidential candidate a "jibe".
Im my world that is horrendously biased and ugly painting of a situation.

edited to remove pictures

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:46

Hugh Jarse

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Heres another from the beeb
Headline says "Europe hates Trump".
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35702584
Yet no empirical data presented to back up the claim, just some random quotes from people and publications that would be expected to dislike trump.
Quite an interesting article, but the headline is not just inaccurate, a plain lie.
edited to remove pictures

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:48

Hugh Jarse

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Murph7355 said:
Which bit are you referring to as horrendous/ugly...?
Well that it was not described as a declaration to kill the candidate
Later regretting it whilst in prison, does not make it a "jibe".
Otherwise all statements like that are "jibes" until carried out.

Hugh Jarse

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oyster said:
OP, where's your Daily Mail images?
You are welcome to contribute, its a thread biggrin

Hugh Jarse

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rpguk said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - dozens of posts on PH where people make similar threats.
There are threats to kill and 'threats to kill'. The BBC article on the Egyptian bloke seems fine to me in picking up that and if your evidence that we live in 'the age of propaganda' is because they didn't use a panto-villanesq photo of him rofl

The 'Europeans hate trump' article is clearly marked up as an editorial/magazine piece.
Well given it is tax payer funded the statement "Europe hates Trump" should have "Opinion : Europe hates Trump" title as there are no empirical references.
A threat to kill is not a jibe, saying his head "looks like a hay bale" is a jibe.
Again, I dont think its acceptable because the BBC is state funded, but glad to read the opposing argument.

Agree the Daily Mail is biased, but that is privately (offshore tax haven) owned so has less obligation to be balanced. The thread is supposed to be part entertaining, as you see things through other peoples eyes on how articles are interpreted.

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:49

Hugh Jarse

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ahhh just spotted this, so i have edited my posts, to remove the pictures pity!

Hugh Jarse

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Good stuff, those last two posts are why we need this thread.
Not to promote a viewpoint, just to hang shame on publications/organisations/"journalists" that are one eyed.
Media should report facts, where possible.
Im living in Sweden where the press decided not to report mass sexual assaults two years running.
That's a very wierd situation, not reporting things for whatever reason and it bothers me a lot more than mass sexual assaults (which bother me significantly).

Hugh Jarse

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technodup said:
Propaganda you say? We have nothing on the North Korean News Agency.

http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.home.retrieveHomeInfo...
It is interesting to read that for a benchmark, but it is not that bad surprisingly.

Hugh Jarse

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Sunday 13th March 2016
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Potatoes said:
I heard you like propoganda, so I put some propoganda in your propoganda:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brit...
The stuff they write about Corbyn is insanely biased, but so bad it is funny "Got on his chairman Mao style bicycle" haha!

Hugh Jarse

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Friday 29th April 2016
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Lest we forget historical propaganda, all made up by the Yorkshire police, to discredit people during a tragedy.
Covered up for twenty years. No police ever prosecuted. Perjury repeated endlessly.
Yorkshire police fked up this, catching the Ripper and lately Rotherham.
Disgraceful.

Hugh Jarse

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Saturday 30th April 2016
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Yeah the Brexit debate is very dodgy for this stuff.
Never heard "Amzon" style tax dodging mentioned.
Everything is decamped to Luxembourg pop 200000, where they pay a token tax and suck it all offshore.
One of the biggest retailers in the UK, paying nowt, all thanks to the EU.
Plusses and minusses, but funny how this never gets mentioned.

Hugh Jarse

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Saturday 30th April 2016
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Hugh Jarse

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Sunday 8th May 2016
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36200591

"trump defies all predictions"

Really, only all her predictions, but plenty of people foresaw him winning.
Six months of inaccurate reporting from Katty Kay.

Hugh Jarse

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Monday 9th May 2016
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oyster said:
Hugh Jarse said:
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).
Any links to confirm your opinion here? Thought not......
Plenty of examples running throughout the thread from both sources, incredibly biased, so how do you justify that statement? Strange.
As even today's posters have noted, the hectoring of info is getting more "eccentric" everyday.
I expect Murdoch/BBC along soon to wipe my arse and spoon feed me.

Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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boyse7en said:
Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK
Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

Hugh Jarse

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ATG said:
Hugh Jarse said:
boyse7en said:
Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK
Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...
But (a) it's not associated with the UK and (b) no one thinks it is a serious news source.
So it's a bit of a stretch to imagine that anyone would think of the BBC and the Mail online as comparable news sources.
Imagine harder.
Or imagine less and google more.
Daily mail is a UK newspaper published in UK written by UK people since god knows when but you are claiming it is not associated with the UK. JTFC.
The Swedish embassy recently complained to the UK about it which was hilarious.