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Yay, another referendum thread ! But please no more rehearsing of the arguments in this thread, just consideration of the results.

First question though is ... How long are folk going to watch/listen, and which channel ?

Me - I shall probably watch BBC1 mainly because I rate Kuenssberg, and I shall probably wait for the first few results - the very first are expected to be Sunderland and Wandsworth and it might be interesting to get an initial feel for London versus the Rest of England. If after a dozen or so results the outcome seems clear either way then I shall hit the sack.

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Disappointed at Dimbleby's tie. He's written that several times on Question Time. Nothing else of note yet.

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I do hope Juncker is watching!

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I do hope Juncker is watching!

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A large dram of 12 yo Old Pulteney for me ... well it was an excuse to get out of the room when Salmond came on.

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Would like to see some rural England results.

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So Birmingham might knock 70,000 off the Leave vote.

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So Birmingham might knock 70,000 off the Leave vote.

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David Davis for PM.

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Dinoboy said:

Why are they showing us the news when we're watching what's happening anyway?

Time to grab another large dram.

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Islington in. Who'd've thunk it?

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ashleyman said:

Gap is only 31k now!! I reckon most of the South, SW & SE (below London) will be leave...

Not the SW. We'll be out.

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Stickyfinger said:

The ones I talked to said they were to busy with exams etc to arrange a postal vote !

Are you their teacher ?

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AJL308 said:

ben5575 said:

General election will be called for 13th October 2016. It has been set in motion today.

You heard it here first.

A GE can't be 'called' anymore. It needs a resolution of Parliament declaring 'no confidence' in the Government.

Indeed (or a straight vote of 75% ? of MPs). Maybe the Tories are planning on a vote of no confidence in the Tory government ? Why would the government want to call a GE, even if they could - unless it was so they could have a manifesto commitment to stay in the EU, of course (manna from heaven for UKIP).

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Stickyfinger said:

I do agree there should be a Law to see 100% voting.

Only if there is always a "none of the above" option.

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Trabi601 said:

mike9009 said:

Nice one - didn't check your garage before posting But on a random sample of 5 Brexiters in this thread not one had a British manufactured car (other than one classic Healey - very nice too - but I suspect the people who manufactured that are long gone )

- to whoever that other Healey owner might be

Trabi601 said:

Isn't the Healey brand now owned by BMW?

I was pretty sure that the Healey family kept it.

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NAS said:

Guvernator said:

What was the original aim of the EU anyway?

To stop wars from happening in Europe.

No, that was the original aim of the ECSC with its six members (F, D, I, NL, L and B). It had become the EEC by the time GB, EI and DK joined in 1973 - and they joined mainly for trading reasons rather than defensive/military; NATO was by then far far more important in respect of peace-keeping. Those 9 were generally speaking the most prosperous states in Europe; further expansion (GR in 1981, ES and P in 1986, then A, F and S in 1995 and the final 12 over the period 2004-7) was primarily for economic reasons to help out poorer nations and/or get them away from the influence of the Big Bad Bear to the east. I'm missing one country to get to 28 !