How many Syrian children are coming here?
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I have read that there could be up to 300 unaccompanied "children" in the loosest sense of the word, destined for England.
How can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
How can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
W124 said:
964Cup said:
Heavens this is so depressing.
Let's deal with the truth that dare not speak its name. Why do you think Merkel allowed 1m migrants into Germany? Compassion? Not really. Germany's birth rate is around 1.4 children per woman of child-bearing age. It's been around that level for some time. What that means is that Germany, like Japan before it, is storing up a massive demographic time bomb. As the current population ages, the ratio of workers to retirees will keep decreasing, meaning that fewer and fewer tax payers have to support more and more pensioners. This isn't viable. Eventually, with that birth rate, you get outright population decline and eventually cease to function as a modern state - Japan, which strongly discourages migration, is heading that way quite quickly. Letting in migrants, whatever the short-term cost, is a very shrewd investment in a future workforce, especially since the migrants in question are from cultures with a higher reproductive rate - although their children will likely tend to the German mean, so it's not necessarily a long-term fix unless sustained. Incidentally, pretty well all European countries are in this position.
The UK's birth rate? 1.9. Better than Germany, but still below replacement rate by some way. We are also even more dependent on current tax payers to fund our welfare state, and have lower productivity (therefore lower tax take per head). We have a stark choice: breed more, with precisely the same impact on schools and social care in the short term as admitting migrants; let in lots of migrants who are young enough to have working lives ahead of them - and let them work; accept that our old age will be hard, poor and shorter than expected. Oh - alternatively we could cull the elderly, or deny them welfare and health care.
So - if you don't want net migration, start shagging now.
Well put. It's true that our economy needs immigration if it is to continue to function. We haven't let hundreds of thousands of people in out of some altruistic folly. We need them. It's cold, but it's true. Let's deal with the truth that dare not speak its name. Why do you think Merkel allowed 1m migrants into Germany? Compassion? Not really. Germany's birth rate is around 1.4 children per woman of child-bearing age. It's been around that level for some time. What that means is that Germany, like Japan before it, is storing up a massive demographic time bomb. As the current population ages, the ratio of workers to retirees will keep decreasing, meaning that fewer and fewer tax payers have to support more and more pensioners. This isn't viable. Eventually, with that birth rate, you get outright population decline and eventually cease to function as a modern state - Japan, which strongly discourages migration, is heading that way quite quickly. Letting in migrants, whatever the short-term cost, is a very shrewd investment in a future workforce, especially since the migrants in question are from cultures with a higher reproductive rate - although their children will likely tend to the German mean, so it's not necessarily a long-term fix unless sustained. Incidentally, pretty well all European countries are in this position.
The UK's birth rate? 1.9. Better than Germany, but still below replacement rate by some way. We are also even more dependent on current tax payers to fund our welfare state, and have lower productivity (therefore lower tax take per head). We have a stark choice: breed more, with precisely the same impact on schools and social care in the short term as admitting migrants; let in lots of migrants who are young enough to have working lives ahead of them - and let them work; accept that our old age will be hard, poor and shorter than expected. Oh - alternatively we could cull the elderly, or deny them welfare and health care.
So - if you don't want net migration, start shagging now.
We need migration.
Yes we need the educated migrants,
No we don't want any scroungers
Have enough already
Welcome to doctors, dentists, technicians, skilled trades persons, all the rest of the no hopers, why should we take them?
Seems to me we have enough no hopers on our dole list at the moment.
grumbledoak said:
Blackpuddin said:
Tonight there are 200 Syrian kids without beds, that is a bloody disgrace in a so-called civilised country.
Are you going to buy the 200 beds yourself? Or do you think you have some Guardian-given right to spend everyone else's money? Or were you just signalling?Personally I suspect that most of these people aren't Syrian. Or kids. And that if we house them there will be 200 more tomorrow. We should find another way.
S10GTA said:
Register1 said:
I have read that there could be up to 300 unaccompanied "children" in the loosest sense of the word, destined for England.
How can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
Its 300 children. Show some fHow can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
king compassion you .There are very few actual Syrian "children" even in the widest sense of the word.
Children.
Yes, form say 1 year old to 12 year old, no more, no older.
Children, no fakes, "I want to be 15 again, and the t
t turns out for be fking 25.If the government did a proper age test, and proved they are Syrian, then fine.
After that then not fine,
Get to f
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