Discussion
Just listened to May's Brexit speech and she mentioned that international organisations don't always fit well with Britain’s political culture and traditions.
This got me thinking about these groups in general and whether there are other ones we should leave.
Many of the same arguments apply to the United Nations in particular. It lacks accountability, it is bureaucratic and unresponsive, we are in a minority as net contributors and can be out voted by countries which contribute less.
It made sense post WW2 but has the UN out lived its usefulness in the same way the EU has? What would we lose by leaving it?
This got me thinking about these groups in general and whether there are other ones we should leave.
Many of the same arguments apply to the United Nations in particular. It lacks accountability, it is bureaucratic and unresponsive, we are in a minority as net contributors and can be out voted by countries which contribute less.
It made sense post WW2 but has the UN out lived its usefulness in the same way the EU has? What would we lose by leaving it?
B'stard Child said:
And that's exactly what "tresemme" wants you to think - it's all a very clever act - she is in league with that fella whose name I forget "frothalot" and that utter skunk Soubriety as well as "dead clegg" who once had some power in a shared status type arrangement but fecked it all up by not standing by his principles
That's another reason to go all guns blazing IMO. Get all these bitter Remains tied up defending our membership of the UN, NATO, WTO, Interflora etc so that losing just the EU seems more palatable to them.Come On Britain, let's leave something else. It's great.
Derek Smith said:
I reckon we will lose our right to the top table, as you put it, within a while. We have no real right to it at the moment and leaving the EU will cost us influence.
The UN has done sterling work around the world with its various institutions. While it is a talking shop, that's considerably better than the alternative. Look up the League of Nation's history and see what happens when countries leave international organisations.
Or perhaps we can ignore the lessons of history and just repeat the failures of the past.
What sterling work? I'm not saying it hasn't but I can't think of any examples of where something was achieved under the UN that would have been impossible otherwise. The UN has done sterling work around the world with its various institutions. While it is a talking shop, that's considerably better than the alternative. Look up the League of Nation's history and see what happens when countries leave international organisations.
Or perhaps we can ignore the lessons of history and just repeat the failures of the past.
As for the League of Nations, it wasn't countries leaving which caused WW2. You could argue that the over reliance on the League helped create the conditions for WW2 meaning France in particular failed to keep Germany in check.
Both NATO and the UN seem to have shades of this.
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