Stop Violence on NHS Staff: Sign the petition Now
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Apologies if posted elsewhere, did check and couldn't find anything...
This is about the disgraceful situation regarding the c. 193 attacks a day on NHS staff. I signed the petition last week when it was 2,500 signatures - now at 90,755 as I type this! When it reaches 100,000 the government has to listen. It's considered a a higher level serious offence to assault Medics, Police and Firemen (Fire people!) in many other countries - but not here. Here its just assault.
These people go out in challenging situations, saving lives - and for little pay and they get knocked about.
Let's add a PistonHead push guys. Surely, a worthy cause...
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari...
This is about the disgraceful situation regarding the c. 193 attacks a day on NHS staff. I signed the petition last week when it was 2,500 signatures - now at 90,755 as I type this! When it reaches 100,000 the government has to listen. It's considered a a higher level serious offence to assault Medics, Police and Firemen (Fire people!) in many other countries - but not here. Here its just assault.
These people go out in challenging situations, saving lives - and for little pay and they get knocked about.
Let's add a PistonHead push guys. Surely, a worthy cause...
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari...
Edited by AMG Merc on Wednesday 18th January 10:38
Oakey said:
"It's an offence to assault Medics, Police and Firemen (Fire people!) in many other countries - but not here."
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ks
Apologies, not what I meant. I was referring to the fact that judges in other countries can give much higher sentences than just assault - have amended post. b
ksEdited by AMG Merc on Wednesday 18th January 10:29
Dr Murdoch said:
Isn't this to give them the same amount of protection the serving Police officers have?
If you kick me in the nuts you'll get x punishment
If you kick a Police officer in the nuts you'll get a stiffer punishment?
I would agree that NHS staff should be treated like Police officers in this instance, absolutely disgusting the animals assault those whose role it is to look after people. Beggars belief.
Precisely. That's what I was attempting to say. Thanks. If you kick me in the nuts you'll get x punishment
If you kick a Police officer in the nuts you'll get a stiffer punishment?
I would agree that NHS staff should be treated like Police officers in this instance, absolutely disgusting the animals assault those whose role it is to look after people. Beggars belief.
Well, thanks to all who voted, we got to stage 2. 
On today's BBC 1pm news an MP tabled a motion and one of May's boys now has to look into it. OK, may not go anywhere but at least it now has some traction.
Despite all the sht commented on about UK Gov here and elsewhere, what a country this is - try getting heard in say Dubai or Moscow and see what happens.
To those commenting that asault law already exists protecting NHS staff. I agree - it could be the judges that are failing on the cases brought before them but does it really hurt to sometimes use citizen power to drive something rather than just relying on what exists.
On today's BBC 1pm news an MP tabled a motion and one of May's boys now has to look into it. OK, may not go anywhere but at least it now has some traction.
Despite all the sh
t commented on about UK Gov here and elsewhere, what a country this is - try getting heard in say Dubai or Moscow and see what happens.To those commenting that asault law already exists protecting NHS staff. I agree - it could be the judges that are failing on the cases brought before them but does it really hurt to sometimes use citizen power to drive something rather than just relying on what exists.
Anyhow, I don't think your support is needed now as the target was achieved, many thanks for reading anyway 
shed driver said:
There's no one size fits all answer. Maybe report every single incident, push for prosecution in every case and let the CPS decide? Kick out every patient that calls me names or lashes out? Or just accept that this happens, but whatever it is, maybe a few exemplary sentences may deter some.
SD.
Well put, can't hurt, can it.SD.
Do those here not interested in the power of petitions, and posting about not needing a new law, realise that the petiton's aim is not to have a new law created but to have an existing amended? That's all, and for this reason it is possibilty.
Currently verbal or physical assault on Police, Prison staff and Immigration officers enables the aggravating feature addition to kick in. This means the judge can increase the fine or sentence in front of him when the crime is against these workers.
Ok, if some of you think the judiciary is failing that's another matter but why not support an initiative that simply seeks to add medics to the list? What harm can it do?
Currently verbal or physical assault on Police, Prison staff and Immigration officers enables the aggravating feature addition to kick in. This means the judge can increase the fine or sentence in front of him when the crime is against these workers.
Ok, if some of you think the judiciary is failing that's another matter but why not support an initiative that simply seeks to add medics to the list? What harm can it do?
fblm said:
It lets people feel good about themselves signing a petition. Extra feel good points if you can tell a bunch of random strangers online that you've signed it too. Share if you support our nurses!
An excellent Trumpesque response (omitting the fact that is has reached Parliament). Well done, not 
jjlynn27 said:
AMG Merc said:
An excellent Trumpesque response (omitting the fact that is has reached Parliament). Well done, not
Thanks for posting the link. I was completely unaware of the petition. Just received an email confirming that it will be debated in the Parliament. UK Gov's response here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/176138?re...
It seemed unclear previously that NHS workers and the like were already considered subject to the same "aggravating factor" treatment as the police, fire and miltary.
"The fact that the victim is providing a service to the public is listed as an aggravating factor in sentencing guidelines which courts have a statutory duty to follow. As such, offenders who assault someone providing a service to the public may face a higher sentence than that for other assaults."
So now we know. Some here will consider the petition a waste of time but it is now logged as an action forever and can always be referred to, which isn't a bad thing.
Now if someone wants to start a petition to get lazy ass judges to deliver the maximum sentencing - changing "may" face to "will automatically face"...
It seemed unclear previously that NHS workers and the like were already considered subject to the same "aggravating factor" treatment as the police, fire and miltary.
"The fact that the victim is providing a service to the public is listed as an aggravating factor in sentencing guidelines which courts have a statutory duty to follow. As such, offenders who assault someone providing a service to the public may face a higher sentence than that for other assaults."
So now we know. Some here will consider the petition a waste of time but it is now logged as an action forever and can always be referred to, which isn't a bad thing.
Now if someone wants to start a petition to get lazy ass judges to deliver the maximum sentencing - changing "may" face to "will automatically face"...
sidicks said:
jjlynn27 said:
Honourable?
How many times have you been attacked or spat at by your clients? How many times have you had to deal with a drunken client to whom you can't tell to fk off and that his business is not welcome?
It certainly seems reasonable to me to have some additional penalties for assaulting someone carrying out a public service. The appropriate definition is quite important though!How many times have you been attacked or spat at by your clients? How many times have you had to deal with a drunken client to whom you can't tell to f
k off and that his business is not welcome?
jjlynn27 said:
...if the new (or extending existing laws) has a chance of working, even if only by encouraging staff to report abuse, in my opinion, is well worth it.
Exactly. It amazes me some here feel sticking with current law is all that matters regadless of outcome. Short-sighted, or what?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff