Violent Racist Attack

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SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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All over the news as you would expect

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news...

Absolutely disgusting behaviour. What is wrong with some people?

And would this be getting different coverage if the ethnic backgrounds were reversed?

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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jas xjr said:
i grew up in the sixties and seventies. people were murdered by racists and it was never reported. attacks such as this were never reported.
it is still a scummy thing to do and i hope they are brought to justice
Interesting parallel.

Do you think we're now in an era of the same sort of denial about racism that we were in the sixties and seventies? Albeit a different kind of racism.

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I think anyone would agree with that.

The total lack of coverage irritates mwme though given the outcry over relatively trivial "hate crimes" such as a nasty sign following the Brexit referendum or some bacon left on a mosque.

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Do you spend all day searching for any kind of negative press about brown people? - only you seem to find a huge number of incidents to pontificate about from your, if I may say so, ever so slightly alt-right perception of the world.
Which incidents that I have found do you have in mind?

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
You've posted 6 topics this month alone which are there to get some confirmation for your unpleasant views. Plus 4-5 last month, too.

Not every one will specifically mention brown people, but there's almost always some underlying alt-right / borderline racist theme.
So 11 topics over 2 months, a couple of which mention bad things done by brown people.

What does this prove exactly?

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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What unpleasant standpoint is this?

SKP555

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So what are these topics and what is my unpleasant standpoint?

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
SKP555 said:
So what are these topics and what is my unpleasant standpoint?
You obviously feel there's nothing wrong, so I'll leave you and your fellow loons to it.
Well you apparently think I am racist and feel sufficiently sure to call me so publicly. So yes, I do think something is wrong.

An explanation why you think that and feel it's ok to say it would be appreciated.

SKP555

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Interesting that they don't mention the background of the victim. Presumably he also was not of the right ethnicity for this to be a big story?

SKP555

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Monday 23rd January 2017
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Alpine
Since the media decided to politicise them by focusing on some incidents while ignoring others, and certain groups jumped on this bandwagon to see racism everywhere except where there is genuine racism. See comments above by Trabi and yourself.

Jdw
It does show a remarkably cool head and strength of character.

SKP555

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Monday 23rd January 2017
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Anyway now that we can see that Alpine and Trabi are just massive racists, the more interesting point to me is how and why the media select the stories they cover and don't cover?

Is it just what sells? Or is there some other agenda?

I would tend to think the former but when you have thr police in Australia telling journalists not to mention potential links with terror or Islam following the attack there last week you do start to wonder.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Alpinestars said:
It really bothers you that you've been busted doesn't it?

Is the race, religion, background of a perpetrator more important than the crime?
That is kind of what I was asking. Because if not then I would expect something like this to get far more coverage, as I am fairly sure it would if the attackers were white and the victim not.


Busted for what? Being a nasty racist? Being someone else? No, it doesn't bother me at all what you think. My inherent correctness stands on its own merit.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Well I am quite likely to assume you mean "busted" for one of the two things I've been accused of.

I'm not responsible for reporting every mugging in the country. It sounds horrible and I hope they are caught and punished.

Neither the victims ethnicity nor the level of violence, nor the nature of the racial abuse are mentioned in the article, so if for example it was "give us your wallet you Irish git" then it's a step short of knocking someone into a freezing canal and blocking their path out. Deplorable, but a step short.

If you want to start a thread on that then feel free. I'll even promise not to hijack it with guessing your identity or ulterior motives.

As it is, this thread is about an attack that was violent and racist. There's a clue in the title. And about the media coverage (or lack of) compared to other attacks, as mentioned in the OP. Yes, I speculate about whether the media are driven by the ethnicities involved.

It's not about all brown people being bad, otherwise the title would be "Brown people are bad" and the OP wouldbe explaining why I think this. But I don't. And it isn't.


SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Mark
Yes it casts an interesting light on some people that they assume everyone goes around inventing hate crimes for political advantage. But sadly that sort of behaviour is not unknown.

Alpine
Obfuscating what exactly? I've broken down the thread bit by bit.

You think I'm someone else. Fine. Report it or deal with it. I don't care.

You think I hate brown people. Fine. Think that if you like. I will obviously say I don't. Because I don't. Is it even relevant?

Anything else?

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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And while we're psycho analysing Alpine, your insistence on seeing everything through a prism of brown people versus white people is quite telling. I didn't even mention skin colour in the OP.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SpeedMattersNot said:
Why post this topic?
Why post any topic?

I felt it deserved a wider audience and discussion than it got.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Alpinestars said:
You're even more intellectually challenged than I give you credit for.
High praise indeed.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Alpine
In relation to media coverage, as oer your quote. Nothing to do with evil brown people.

Kurt
I'm calm thanks. What are you actually talking about?

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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I'm not squirming at all.

Maybe there are similar or worse attacks. Feel free to post them.

This seems like an especially nasty one which received especially little coverage. Hence the thread.

And yes I think that had the ethnicities been reversed the coverage would have been different, and that also warrants discussion.

What part of that means I have anything against brown people?

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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So what is your point?