Do i need to fill in a tax return ?

Do i need to fill in a tax return ?

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SimonV8ster

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Saturday 19th July 2014
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I'm wondering whether i need to fill in a tax return ? (Which probably means yes i guess !)

I left work May last year, got paid, got whacked 40% on only my second months salary, told i would have to wait until the end of the year to sort it out, great.

Anyhow, i left work on an early severance deal so got paid out and got whacked 40% tax on everything again but at least this time they said i had probably paid too much tax and they could look into it. I sent my last two salary statements (and my P60 or whatever it was) showing what i had earnt so far that year and answered all questions truefully about not working or getting any allowances, etc.

They re-calculated all of my tax issues/earnings and sent me a refund. I have not worked since leaving work as i have been (and still am) abroad travelling.

Do i need to fill in a tax return for 2013/2014 as my circumstances have not changed since they worked it all out ?

Having been a civil servant all my working life i have never had to deal with anything to do with tax/NI/pensions, etc,etc !!

I believe i have up to next January maybe March to do it if i do it online, i am returning home for Xmas for a bit so could do it then.

Any help appreciated.

SimonV8ster

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Saturday 19th July 2014
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Thank you both.

Henry JM - yes everything up to the point where i left was looked at and taken into account, taxed accordingly and refund given. Working it oug roughly without detailed knowledge it, i believe it is ok. Not earn't/worked since and out of the UK travelling.

Eric MC - if i register for self assesment online does that start any ball rolling as it were, can i pump some numbers into it and see if it comes up with what i've paid already, or does that send some information of to somebody who then start pestering me ? I've got nothing to hide just don't want to be hassled by folk if i'm abroad and will have difficulty dealing with people, rather let sleeping dogs lay and all that.

In this sort of scenario Eric which seems quite straight forward, what do you think somebody would charge to check and file on line for me ?


SimonV8ster

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Saturday 19th July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I would say about £100 - assuming matters are as straightforward as you THINK they are..
Ok that's good news, more than happy with that for peace of mind and somebody else doing it.

So would I just have to send any paperwork I have off to them with some sort of written statement and then let them sort it out ?

I'm still abroad, will return home for 2/3 weeks at Xmas but only to renew my passport then be off again, might not have time to visit someone.

SimonV8ster

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Saturday 26th July 2014
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Ok i'm stumped now, to use the online self assessment you need your UTR, it says in their own description that to get a UTR you have to register for self assessment ? Eh ?!

I would like to email them but i can see no way of emailing them to ask for assistance as no emails are visible.

I believe i need tax forms SA100 but i can see nowhere where it actually asks you how much money you've earn't ?!

Even if i want to do it by paper submission i still need my UTR ?


Maybe i'm making some obvious mistake but i can't see anyway of proceeding ?

If anybody can offer any assistance i would appreciate it.

SimonV8ster

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Saturday 26th July 2014
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Thank you, why did i never see that page ?

Ok, i'll start from the beginning.........

SimonV8ster

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Saturday 26th July 2014
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Ok, thanks Eric.

I've now submitted my request for SA, they have told me that it might take 6-8 weeks to get my UTR.

So i'll be adding to this thread in about , oooh, 6-8 weeks.

SimonV8ster

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Friday 26th December 2014
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Ok, well i've returned home and was about to complete my return armed with my UTR but of course you then also need an activation code which has to be sent by post...........

I now have that and will try and complete my return.

One question i have just thought of is as i have been outside of the country during the time i was receiving the rent on my property, does this have any implications for me ? Or do i just declare it all (minus any maintenance and agenf fees) ?

SimonV8ster

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Sunday 28th December 2014
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Ok, i have completed my return and got it into a shape which looks correct and understandable, the figures are what i thought they should be.

When it shows me what i owe for 2013-2014 (about 3.5k) it also asks for '1st payment on account for 2014-2015' which is 50% of the above. As i have not worked here or abroad this year and will not i don't obviously want to pay this and then have to wait until next year to sort it out.

How do i/can i get around this ? It is automatically adding it to the total owed ?

SimonV8ster

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Sunday 28th December 2014
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Ok, i've now found the 'Payments on account' field and entered zero and its not asking for any money for 2014-2015 - yippee !! ( which will be correct as my only income will be my rent which puts me under the 10K threshold).