lease extention - before owning for 2 years

lease extention - before owning for 2 years

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philv

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3,944 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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Hi,

i have a flat with about 83 years left on the lease.
I have owned it for 6 months.
So i cannot extend by right for another 18 monnhs.
But that is comfortably before the lease drops below 80 years and costs go up to extend.

I i approach the leaseholder now and ask if they would be willing to let me extend now, are they likely to agree?

It should make no difference to the cost whether doing it now or in 18 months time, but i could just get it out of the way, done and dusted.

Also, if the process to extend a lease was started with 80.5 years to go, but negotiations, etc took 12 months, and resulted in less than 80 years being left on the lease, would the extension cost be based on when negotiations started (more than 80 years) or or when the lease is extended (less than 80 years)?

Cheers.

Edited by philv on Sunday 14th August 13:56

philv

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3,944 posts

215 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Any experienc?

Am i better off waiting?

philv

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215 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Unless owned for 2 years, the landlord does not have to extend, and cost is whatever they agree to.

After 2 years, there is a legal right to extend.
If you go down this route, you can add 90 years to rne lease.
And no ground rent.
If he cost cannot be agreed tnen it goes to tribunal.

I could wait 18 months and have tne right to extend for 90 years with no ground rent.

But would rather do it now so it is out of rne way.

I was wondering if the landlord is likely to impose a premium for doing it before 2 years and want to keep a ground rent.
In which case i probably would be better waiti g?

Anyway, i have now written to tne landlord asking rnem about extending.

philv

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215 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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Well, mine has offered to extend -

from
83 to 125 years.
from
120 pa ground rent (increasing by 120 every 33 years)
to
200 pa ground rent (doubling every 25 years)

£5000 plus 1500 legal/valuation costs plus my costs approx 1000.

Not impressed.
In 16 month si can extend to 179 years for approx 6500 plus joint costs of approx 2500.
And no ground rent.

Save 1500 by doing it now, but have high ground rent and much shorter lease.

Pointless offer or am i missing something?

philv

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215 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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It sn't a problem waiting 16 months.
And will still have 81 years left.

To get it out of tne way/budgetary planning i would have paid a little more to do it now.

But not for 50+ less years on tne lease and significant increases in ground rent.
I'd be daft to do that and the offer from the landlord was pointless.

In 15 months it should cost a total of 10k max all n with fees both sides, and no ground rent.
Property value 210k north london.
So i will wait.

Thanks for tne replies.

philv

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215 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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That is quite a difference, considering there are tools to calculate approx values?