Barclays Bank - Useless

Barclays Bank - Useless

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cpjitservices

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373 posts

94 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Steer Clear ladies n gents what an absolutely diabolical mess for a bank.

Car is broken so off it went into A garage for repairs. Whilst at the garage I thought Ill sort the funds out. Logged onto online banking with my card details (i have them saved). Went to transfer the money to my main bank account as ATM is miles away for Barclays so thought transfer to Natwest as machine over the road. Put card in PINSentry (Card reader) and entered my PIN wrong 3 times. My bad, whoops. Not a Card I use often at all. Only way to transfer cash is to use this stupid Pin Sentry machine. Great. So phoned them up nope cant do anything you have to go to nearest branch. Great. Its in town center and I'm other end of the city so there isnt one local really nor a cash machine for them.

Wonderful.

Gets a phone call from Barclays - Oh you could use your mobile app to transfer the cash. Excellent puts phone down and does just that. ERROR your account is blocked. Great. So cant use that either - turns out my account is not compatible with Mobile App.

Long story short - got a slow walk home until I can get to the branch in the morning. Your telling me a bank - only has one way for you to get money out and if you cock it up thats it unless you can visit a local branch ? No good if you live no where near a machine or branch which unfortunately... I dont.

Marvelous.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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Its a complete farce. Natwest, if my card doesnt work or PIN is forgotten who cares thats your card... login online with completely different credentials and all is well u can do what you like.

The details are separate as they are for Barclays, Ive authenticated and verified my Identity. So let me have my sodding cash!

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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Nope I cannot. as its a savings account card not a debit card so only works in Barclays machines!!

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
you can get other banks money from other machines you know.
i use pin sentry and online banking. never put my pin in wrongly thou, you have to take some responsibility for that.
i did have a complaint with them and they paid me 120 quid for failing to help me with my problem, so not all bad really.
Not bad, its causing me a major headache. To top it off local branch closes at 4PM..... Great Im at work till 6.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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Audicab said:
I think Barclays app is great. Certainly better than other banks I've used.
Ill bet it is, but because I have a certain type of account its incompatible.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Couldn't you just use your Barclays card in the NatWest ATM?
Nope. Savings account card. Only works in Barclays machines. Barclays have admitted oh sorry the only option you have is to visit your local branch.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
you can get other banks money from other machines you know.
i use pin sentry and online banking. never put my pin in wrongly thou, you have to take some responsibility for that.
i did have a complaint with them and they paid me 120 quid for failing to help me with my problem, so not all bad really.
Agree about PIN number but its seldom used this card as usually we pay into it and not take monies out but the one time we do use it for that purpose I've now got stuck. However, surely there should be a fail safe in place for certain situations.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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SAS Tom said:
To be fair it's hardly their fault you can't remember your pin. Even if you'd gone to the bank with it you'd have only put the wrong pin in.
Very true but something you dont use you dont always remember and the amount of passwords and other pins I have Its no wonder I sometimes forget.
Surely there should be something in place so if you do forget you can still transfer money - I can login online no problem so why not let me use the online banking for what it was intended for.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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The fact they have security measure in place is no problem, its the fact that I can still log on to online banking, but because my PIN on my card was entered incorrectly means my account is essentially in locked down mode. Why not make it a separate system like Natwest. Lose your card you can still use online banking, forget your pin you can still move money around. I have no problem with it being secure but they could at least help me, Ive been on the phone to them and proved to them who I was so why not let me move money around ?

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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LOL its stupid when there is only one way to get money out of my account. Phone banking would be great but guess what ... requires the PIN number. All I'm saying is I dont mind the account being locked but give me more than one way to move money around instead of relying on one method.

Sorry Edit: The Phone banking is tied to the App, which I cant use on my Account. As its not compatible.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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R8Steve said:
Like what would you suggest?

You do realise that transferring money out of an account is a higher risk than simply viewing balance/transactions and needs an extra layer of security because of this?
I would suggest more than one way of authenticating,

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R8Steve said:
You were given another method, go to the branch.

What other way would you like to see introduced?
OK, Yeah ill just walk 6 miles to the nearest branch at 6PM bearing in mind it closes at 4PM so what use would that be ? - Well why couldnt they opearte another procedure over the phone - ive locked my card out apparently not my entire account but everything is tied to the card. Rubbish Idea. Let me phone you, prove who I am, and let me make a transfer over the phone. HELL- they even authenticated me by using VOICE Recognition!! So they could prove it was me.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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Yep, Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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R8Steve said:
And how do you prove who you are over the phone? What happens when a fraudster calls up and says 'oh, but it is me, definitely' and transfers your entire balance out, still a rubbish idea then?
One of the options over the phone is to authenticate you via voice recognition which they did. So unless I'd been kidnapped and someone recording me answering questions to get into a savings account.. Things like Mothers Maiden name is asked also of which I have completely made up a name and no chance of a Fraudster guessing it. My wife doesnt even know what it is and I've told no one the "Over the phone" details.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
There isn't. There's several. But, yes, they all require you to confirm your identity - and I don't think it's a bad thing that the account's locked if you cock doing that up.
Agree completely.. but I have confirmed who I am several times. Via Voice recognition AND Answers to questions which I only know the answers too.

cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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I work in IT, so I see on a regular basis that accounts have been hacked etc due to viruses or someone giving away information etc so I agree that there should be safeguarding in place - but when someone forgets some details and ends up locking out the account then surely there should be a system in place whereby something can still be done if you can prove who you are.
Other than visiting a branch that when com closing time of my work will be closed. As it closes at 4:30 PM and no chance I can get away early.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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R8Steve said:
Voice recognition/fingerprint/etc on phone/mobile devices will always be a 'level 1' authentication in that you can view basics like balance/transactions. They are not secure enough to make transactions hence the need for a PIN or similar.

It's hardly the banks fault that you have forgotten your pin/falsified your security answers and don't want to go to the branch.
I'll quite happily go to the branch... It opens at 9:30 AM and Closes at 4:30PM - During which I am at work and can probably only get out for 30 mins at lunch. It'll take me approx 45 mins to get to the local branch. I work Saturdays too 9 till 3. Branch closes at 4 On Saturday by the time I get there it will be closing. My weekday hours are 8:30 till 5 sometimes 6PM.

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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RemyMartin said:
Barclays app is great. OP is a tool.
I cant use the App, Barclays claim my Account is not compatible so how am I a tool ?


cpjitservices

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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RemyMartin said:
Because you waded in saying how crap Barclays are, when you got your pin wrong (your fault, regardless of how often you use it) and they have offered an alternative, if you cannot make it that's not their fault, barclays does not exist for just you lol.
Again I completely agree. This is why I was pissed off. Yes I forgot my PIN whoops, unlucky. My beef is they offer other services such as the App and Phone banking but my account isnt compatible ? Thats not my fault. Had I been aware that this was the case I would of taken more care to remember the PIN.

cpjitservices

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Friday 2nd December 2016
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To be fair - When I setup the account - I was told I could use online banking and my card would work like any other. Its durong the life of the account when it has all changed - and I have not been told about it. I have not received emails or letters about the facts. Its a 'Savings' account. It doesnt have a cash card the card is apparently for paying in and withdrawing ONLY from Barclays ATM's.

Yes I should of stopped at 2, However, Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Had I known locking my card out was going to cause such aggro then I would of.,