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Timmy35

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Friday 24th May 2013
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Has anyone had to have one of these, what's a reasonable price for a 2 dusk one dawn survey? The prices I've heard seem eye watering to tell whether or not there are flying mice in a building I want to flatten.

Timmy35

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clarkmagpie said:
My FIL does these, will ask the question later and report back.
Where abouts in the country are you?
Thanks! I've Pm'd turva as that rate seems quite reasonable given what I've been quoted so far. It's in South Wales.

Timmy35

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knotweed said:
A lot will depend on the size of your building and therefore how many people it will take to survey it (or over how many nights/mornings). Plus there will a charge for travel time, mileage and the like. Surveyors I have worked with before have charged around £200-250 a day, so one bat survey would be around half a day's work (a survey will be around 3 hours plus travel and there will usually be more than one surveyor). So it will be quite pricey I'm afraid.
Yes, sounds about right......the quote I've had is for 2 dusk and 1 dawn survey, on two buildings.....£2100!!! For some ****ing bats. I've even said I'd happily put in a bat loft and some boxes regardless, and therefore skip the survey? But no, it seems I must have the survey ( according to the extorionate bat survey person ).

Ironiacally this makes me think alot of people uthenise the little buggers or remove any trace of them for fear of this kind of bill. The law of unintended consequences.

Timmy35

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herbialfa said:
Having never been involved with one, is it not a seasonal thing too?

So you might have to wait for the right season to carry out the survey which might hold up your proposals.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
This is the season apparently.

Timmy35

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Tuesday 28th May 2013
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speedyguy said:
Council planners seem to Excel in stupidity at times.
At the end of the day they are little more than traffic wardens. I've been waiting for 2 months for planning to put in a stock fence to prevent animals wandering onto the road. I wish I was joking/ exaggerating. It would be nice if the advice they gave that I could put a fence in that was under 1m and not even bother applying was just a joke but it isn't.

A 99cm fence no permission required, a 120cm fence full planning required. If this makes sense it's beyond me.

As for the flying mice, this was my first barn development. Somebody else who was doing one in future might use a leaf blower first to blast all the ledges and crannies, switch it to vaccum mode to suck it all up, then for good measure waft a blow torch along the ledges and crannies, and possibly have the roof off for good measure.


Timmy35

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Tuesday 28th May 2013
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skintemma said:
I held my head when the planning officer first visited the site. There's enough hard standing to park 20 artics - she parked so close to my car that she struggled to open her door. We had to submit 27 supporting documents with our build/renovation - including elevations and drawings of a post and rail fence. The clue being in the name...
If it wasn't true you'd have to make it up.

Me "Hello I'd like to put in a gate off my field, do I need planning"

phone Planner "Ok can you describe the dimensions of the building"

Me "It's a gate, it's not a building, just a wooden gate"

phone Planner "So what are the rough dimnesions"

Me "About 10ft it's just a gate"

<sound of confused whispering in the backgound>

phone Planner "Is is new development"

Me "Well there's already a hedge there I'd just like a gate in it, so I can get in and out but the sheep can't"

<more confused whispering in the backgound>

phone Planner "I think you'll need to do a full planning application"

banghead

Why is the housing supply inadequate in the UK, and why do we have the smallest most crowded housing in the Western world? Our planning system holds the anwer.




Timmy35

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Wednesday 29th May 2013
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I view it as a load of expensive unecessary red tape which ensures that building houses, whether ones own or for general sale remains a relatively closed shop accessible to a few individuals with above average means, and the building trade, thus helping to ensure we continue to have a restricted supply of decently sized housing that people want, and ever more small/tightly packed estate housing developments which people don't really want.

Timmy35

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Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Countdown said:
Damn - there goes my cunning plan wink
It's money for old rope, having said that as another poster noted there are more people doing bat surveys than there are tics on a stray cat which is ( thankfully ) driving prices down.


Timmy35

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Thursday 30th May 2013
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blueg33 said:
herewego said:
However as you've said if they find any bats then you advise your clients to walk away and for you and them the issue is over. Someone still owns the site though and now they have a bat problem.
Yep. Just liek if you have an inspection on a car you are about to buy and find the head gasket has gone. Owner now has a head gasket problem. He had it before the inspection but just didnt realise.

The bat guys do not go and install bats!
It wouldn't surpise me if they did carry around the odd bat turd to surreptitously drop.