toilet pan in bathroom, cistern in loft?
Discussion
Hi all,
Firstly thanks so much for those that take the time to reply to my incessant requests for advice - its very appreciated!
This time I have an idea to put the cistern in the small loft above the bathroom (typical Victorian layout with a (small) bathroom at the back) and chase some flat pipe into the wall to feed the pan directly so as to save a little space and not have weird angles and build vortices with piers etc as you would with a more conventional high mounted cistern.
My obvious concern is that I will have 10+ litres with a 2.5 metre head that a standard pan will not expect - though I did think the flatter pipe might shave a little off this. Actually thinking about it - the flat pipe will do bugger all and it will thunder into the pan unless there is some way of telling it to slow down. But is this such a problem?
I appreciate the normal way of having a dual flush toilet simply will not work but I am ok with having a single flush 'volume' so is there any mileage in this?
There are options obviously with regard to a pull chain or a remote system - a bit like being in an upmarket hotel I suppose - which I am not sure of - but it remains an option.
Fundamentally though - has anyone headed down such a route before and found success? I absolutely hate close coupled systems and while I appreciate access might be more troublesome, relocating the whole thing while I am completely stripping the bathroom would be nice? As I say, the house is Victorian and downstairs I want to keep period - but the bathroom would be nice if it enjoyed some contemporary innovation....
Oh - ETA I am replacing the soil stack before it falls down so moving the toilet pan back to the wall is absolutely on the cards and shouldn't present any problems for my ever patient plumber!
Firstly thanks so much for those that take the time to reply to my incessant requests for advice - its very appreciated!
This time I have an idea to put the cistern in the small loft above the bathroom (typical Victorian layout with a (small) bathroom at the back) and chase some flat pipe into the wall to feed the pan directly so as to save a little space and not have weird angles and build vortices with piers etc as you would with a more conventional high mounted cistern.
My obvious concern is that I will have 10+ litres with a 2.5 metre head that a standard pan will not expect - though I did think the flatter pipe might shave a little off this. Actually thinking about it - the flat pipe will do bugger all and it will thunder into the pan unless there is some way of telling it to slow down. But is this such a problem?
I appreciate the normal way of having a dual flush toilet simply will not work but I am ok with having a single flush 'volume' so is there any mileage in this?
There are options obviously with regard to a pull chain or a remote system - a bit like being in an upmarket hotel I suppose - which I am not sure of - but it remains an option.
Fundamentally though - has anyone headed down such a route before and found success? I absolutely hate close coupled systems and while I appreciate access might be more troublesome, relocating the whole thing while I am completely stripping the bathroom would be nice? As I say, the house is Victorian and downstairs I want to keep period - but the bathroom would be nice if it enjoyed some contemporary innovation....
Oh - ETA I am replacing the soil stack before it falls down so moving the toilet pan back to the wall is absolutely on the cards and shouldn't present any problems for my ever patient plumber!
Edited by paolow on Wednesday 20th August 20:10
Thanks for the pointers guys 
I'll have a quick research for the brands as suggested - its nice to know there are options! I don't THINK there would be much of an issue of freezing in the loft - we can always lag the cistern - though I have just spotted the infra red heater on the wall takes its power from the loft and my money is on taking it's power from the lighting ring main. Awesome. How this place hasn't burnt down yet is anyone's guess but bit by bit we are making good!
I'll have a quick research for the brands as suggested - its nice to know there are options! I don't THINK there would be much of an issue of freezing in the loft - we can always lag the cistern - though I have just spotted the infra red heater on the wall takes its power from the loft and my money is on taking it's power from the lighting ring main. Awesome. How this place hasn't burnt down yet is anyone's guess but bit by bit we are making good!
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