We need a new boiler - where to start
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We have a Ideal Mexico Super 3 in the house since built in 2000 and Im aware its a big inefficient thing with no room thermo and it has to be on for hot water, its also in the middle of the house so its also illegal under current regs.
I am wary of being ripped off on something I know nothing about, we will need a wall mounted boiler fitting and the pipework extending and I suppose I start with a BG quote and an indy
Anything to consider? we have a megaflow cylinder as well if it makes any odds.
I hate buying stuff I know nothing about
I am wary of being ripped off on something I know nothing about, we will need a wall mounted boiler fitting and the pipework extending and I suppose I start with a BG quote and an indy
Anything to consider? we have a megaflow cylinder as well if it makes any odds.
I hate buying stuff I know nothing about
Pheo said:
What do you mean by it has to be on for hot water? Is it a combi, or a regular boiler with a cylinder?
Also, why does it being in the middle of the house make it illegal? My Nan's is and was moved there a couple of years ago. Moving it will significantly add to the cost
Is it actually broken? Why do you want to replace it? The payback period is long.
Reg with cylinder but we empty the cyl and end up needing to use the boiler again, if the megaflow can be used to heat water up I have no idea how to use that.Also, why does it being in the middle of the house make it illegal? My Nan's is and was moved there a couple of years ago. Moving it will significantly add to the cost
Is it actually broken? Why do you want to replace it? The payback period is long.
Being in the middle of the house the flue comes up through the middle of the house - I am told this is illegal ? I want to replace it because I am told its very very inefficient and we can save £500+ a year
forest07 said:
DSLiverpool said:
Reg with cylinder but we empty the cyl and end up needing to use the boiler again, if the megaflow can be used to heat water up I have no idea how to use that.
Being in the middle of the house the flue comes up through the middle of the house - I am told this is illegal ? I want to replace it because I am told its very very inefficient and we can save £500+ a year
The installation is not illegal it just doent meet current standards. £500 is a big saving I would want to see some calculation of how this would be achieved.. Maybe you have a larger than average home. Being in the middle of the house the flue comes up through the middle of the house - I am told this is illegal ? I want to replace it because I am told its very very inefficient and we can save £500+ a year
Be wary of sales talk
Food for thought, maybe a bloody good service would help, when I say illegal - I mean the chimney (?) flue goes up in the middle of the house through our bedroom (we have 3 detectors in our bedroom and 3 more in the utility room - if it leaks we will know) - whenever anyone comes round to work on it they put an unsafe label on it and want to shut it off !!!
Just to update this thread.
We cant have a wireless stat as the house doesn't have anywhere to put it that suits us all, as such we will have WiFi wireless radiator valves and diverter valves that can zone the system bringing in and shutting off radiators as required on a timer or by remote - I think this is superb as it will suit us very well
The boiler isn't in a ventilated room and the system is heavily sludged - as such I asked for the nuclear option to make it all work nicely and fit a new boiler, the WiFi stats are extra to this quote.
Any thought? - I make it approx £1800 for all the kit inc powerflush fluid and by default £2400 labour and incidentals, have I missed anything?
Further to our recent visit to your home we now have pleasure in submitting our Quotation for the following works: -
1. To drain heating system, disconnect existing boiler and remove from site.
2. To supply and fit VAILLANT ECOTEC 637 heating boiler in the utility room cupboard, flue to run at high level across the ceiling and terminate on rear elevation.
3. To supply and fit VAILLANT ECO condense pump to discharge condense waste via the same route as flue.
4. To supply and fit FERNOX magnetic filter to return pipework below boiler.
5. To re-use all existing controls and wiring.
6. Perform POWERFLUSH to whole system and each radiator individually using the appropriate cleanser and on completion add inhibitor.
7. Refill system, commission boiler, Fire and test.
8. Remove all waste materials from site. (Including all copper, cylinder etc but not polystyrene).
9. Register Certificate of Compliance with Building Control Officer.
These works could be carried out for a total cost of £4272.00 inc VAT at 20%
Your new boiler has a 8-YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PARTS AND LABOUR GUARANTEE. A condition of the guarantee is that an annual service procedure is carried out. The cost of this service is not included in this quotation and must be carried out by our own engineers. The PROGRAMMER/TIMESWITCH/ROOM THERMOSTAT are covered by a 2 -YEAR GUARANTEE. All workmanship is guaranteed for 5-YEARS.
We cant have a wireless stat as the house doesn't have anywhere to put it that suits us all, as such we will have WiFi wireless radiator valves and diverter valves that can zone the system bringing in and shutting off radiators as required on a timer or by remote - I think this is superb as it will suit us very well
The boiler isn't in a ventilated room and the system is heavily sludged - as such I asked for the nuclear option to make it all work nicely and fit a new boiler, the WiFi stats are extra to this quote.
Any thought? - I make it approx £1800 for all the kit inc powerflush fluid and by default £2400 labour and incidentals, have I missed anything?
Further to our recent visit to your home we now have pleasure in submitting our Quotation for the following works: -
1. To drain heating system, disconnect existing boiler and remove from site.
2. To supply and fit VAILLANT ECOTEC 637 heating boiler in the utility room cupboard, flue to run at high level across the ceiling and terminate on rear elevation.
3. To supply and fit VAILLANT ECO condense pump to discharge condense waste via the same route as flue.
4. To supply and fit FERNOX magnetic filter to return pipework below boiler.
5. To re-use all existing controls and wiring.
6. Perform POWERFLUSH to whole system and each radiator individually using the appropriate cleanser and on completion add inhibitor.
7. Refill system, commission boiler, Fire and test.
8. Remove all waste materials from site. (Including all copper, cylinder etc but not polystyrene).
9. Register Certificate of Compliance with Building Control Officer.
These works could be carried out for a total cost of £4272.00 inc VAT at 20%
Your new boiler has a 8-YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PARTS AND LABOUR GUARANTEE. A condition of the guarantee is that an annual service procedure is carried out. The cost of this service is not included in this quotation and must be carried out by our own engineers. The PROGRAMMER/TIMESWITCH/ROOM THERMOSTAT are covered by a 2 -YEAR GUARANTEE. All workmanship is guaranteed for 5-YEARS.
Edited by DSLiverpool on Wednesday 3rd December 14:03
Scuffers said:
looks like a pretty good deal to me?
my only comment is this, for the sake of ?? (thinking some £1-1.5K?)I would look very hard at the old radiators, considering how cheap new ones are, I would be looking at swapping them all out unless they are really clean (inside), pipework usually flushes out OK, rads are another subject.
We have several new rads that all work ok, any that are blocked we will renew - my issue is the labour charge or the mark up on the kit, if I bought it at google prices it would be £1800 plus say £200 for fixings and bits of pipe so labour for 2 days at £1100 a day seems to me over the top however its fully guaranteed for a long time from a well respected indie my only comment is this, for the sake of ?? (thinking some £1-1.5K?)I would look very hard at the old radiators, considering how cheap new ones are, I would be looking at swapping them all out unless they are really clean (inside), pipework usually flushes out OK, rads are another subject.
I do get the "price for the job" as I have been round the block over the years I just thought it was a bit ££ plus I have assumed my google prices have a margin on them that the installer would make, I would not be buying at the installers price I just googled it and took it off shopping.
Will get one more quote from a quality indie for comparison
Will get one more quote from a quality indie for comparison
Pheo said:
paid £2.1k for a swap of an old Glowworm into a new WB regular boiler in june, moving from one wall to another but right next to eachother, and tapping into the existing pipework.
Well a powerflush is about £1000 plus filter and a few bits inc the new flue so maybe £4200 is about rightGassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff