Property devaluing advice.

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il-mostro

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Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Hello all.

I have posted on here as I know what a wide range of people use this forum.

I am lucky enough to live on a modest estate in which my house is right on the edge and backs onto rented farm land. The fields behind my house extend some way back and my view on a good day shows the Welsh Hills of Moel Famau. My garden is open at the back and affords me a stunning view and great sunsets.

I have recently had letters from the council with regards various plans submitted by a very well known national builder who wish to build on the fields, eventually resulting in housing which will back right onto my property. My views will be ruined and I will as such live in the middle of two estates.

I have submitted objections along various lines, including noise, extra traffic, the disturbance of local buzzards and other wildlife, the fact that almost non of the property is what I would consider affordable (for the area) and most personal to me, the local town is in decline, not growth, and most importantly to me the fact that i feel the value of my property will be reduced, as one of the main selling points is its outstanding view.

Does anyone have a similar experience to this, and have you ever heard of a situation where a home owner would be compensated due to a loss of value to their home? I do not live in an area of outstanding natural beauty, neither is my house worth a huge amount of money, but it is my little castle, and until I can afford a big place in the countryside, its about the best I can achieve.

Any info would be much appreciated.

il-mostro

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Tuesday 16th December 2014
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SteBrown91 said:
Sorry, mate but you come across as the "not in my back yard" brigade.

No-one has the right to a view, and unless the house was sold on a contact where they guaranteed no building behind you there is little you can do.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a swampy sort or anything like that, just someone who loves their view and position. There are loads of brown sites near here which could be used, that said the town is in decline, so I can't see why 200 new detached houses are needed. I'm all for progress for a purpose, but this seems pointless.

il-mostro

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Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Escy said:
A certain percentage of this new build will be council housing. Look forward to that. Expect beer cans and dog st in front of your door soon.

A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
Gutted for your parents.

il-mostro

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Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Patrick1964 said:
Sounds like you live very close to us in Denbigh, although according to a post you made two weeks ago you live in Great Sutton ( you're doing well if you can see the Clwyds from there). I think the deal is done, frankly, and nothing will change the decision. On the bright side, Home Bargains are taking over the old Kwiksave site.....

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Edited by Patrick1964 on Tuesday 16th December 20:04
Great Sutton is where I live. It's a great spot, will just be gutted if we loose the view. Model Famau is an easy spot on a clear day.

il-mostro

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Tuesday 16th December 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Sorry, but not only is "My house will be worth less" not acceptable grounds for objecting to a planning application, but there's absolutely no requirement for compensation.

Think of it the other way - if a local development meant that your house value rose, would you be happy if the developers asked for part of that rise in value?
Another objector had made this point which raised my eyebrows if surprised me a little, hence why I posted here a get a greater range of responses.

The general consensus would be that I have no grounds which put me back to where I was about 3 hrs ago before I even new of this option, so nothing lost really.

I guess I'm gonna have to accept that it will most likely happen. The houses do appear on the plans at least, pretty top end 3 and 4 bed detached houses, with i think about 8 terraced houses. I'm not worried about ASB issues as I don't think that will be a problem, I'm just more upset about the loss of once lovely land.

il-mostro

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Escy said:
Funny you say that, my parents have just moved out and also can't face selling for a huge loss so are renting it. I'm surprised they can get away with changing plans once people have signed up. Lots of the homeowners were livid about it and tried to group together to take them to court, nothing came of it.

OP, you say they are building posh houses but there will be a quota of social houses that have to be built.
They have quoted 30% affordable housing but I'm damned if I can find it!

il-mostro

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Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Wow, didn't think this thread would generate so many responses! For and against.

The be honest, I fully understand the 'not in my back yard' comments, if I was of such a sensitive disposition that I got offended, I'm on the wrong forum and should probably avoid most of the internet!

Yes, my house is part of an estate that was built about 25years ago. There were very few homes on this land before the estate was built, but yes, I guess the very building of this estate will have ruined someone's view.

No, I am not a buzzard champion, I am a keen photographer and love trying to get pictures of these glorious birds, but they always outmanoeuvre me, but not for want of trying.

I put that Ellesmere Port is a town on decline, so why more housing? If it was a boom town and was attracting loads of workers from surrounding areas, I could understand a little more, but it isn't.

I know I am not entitled to a view by right or otherwise. A person outside of this thread had suggested compensation and I had no idea if this was a possibility, but that seems to be a complete non starter, which I can totally understand.

I guess this is just progress, I either wear it or move. Fact of life, get over it. I will be gutted, but there you go.

Thanks for the comments.

il-mostro

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Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Pit Pony said:
People NEED housing. There is a housing shortage. people don't want to live on an old chemical factory site, so developers want to build on virgin farm land. How would you solve the problem ?
They probably don't want to live within 1/4 mile of a nuclear waste storage facility which is set to grow massively if a contract up for discussion gets agreed, but I doubt that will be in the advertising spiel.

They have redeveloped a load of brown site near the M53 at Ellesmere Port which seems to have gone down very well. There are still plenty of sites around there.