to remove the chimney breast or not...

to remove the chimney breast or not...

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princeperch

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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that is the question.

so here is the new proposed kitchen, from magnet in their astral blue colour.

It’s a fair size room (I’m going to need over 6m of quartz for the work surfaces.) The only compromise at the moment is that of the location of the range cooker. I’ve ordered a nice 100cm cream leisure range cooker which was an excellent price and what we wanted.

However it can’t go where the current cooker is on the other side of the room, so we thought that we would make the best of the chimney space and put it there. There is over 1m of clearance between the cooker and the other side of the kitchen – not ideal I know but the other option is to get the chimney removed. I’m not keen on that as it is destroying a period feature in a Victorian house, it’s a ball ache to do as it’s on a party wall, and will cost something in the region of £1500 quid to do (more if the neighbours are difficult).

Would you remove it or keep it as a feature?

The bloody kitchen is costing me enough as it is without having to start knocking walls down…










n.b the door that half opens is the utility cupboard – a sliding door will go on that in due course.


princeperch

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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the kitchen guy got a quote for me for removal (which includes the skip) for £750 quid (I cant remember exactly how he said it would be supported but remember him mentioning something about gallows brackets)

I assume I'll need building control to come round and look at it - so another 200 quid for that?

to be honest I thought it would be more than that...

princeperch

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Interesting thoughts all.

princeperch

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Tuesday 17th February 2015
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It's out.

But it made a bloody mess.









Edited by princeperch on Tuesday 17th February 15:58

princeperch

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Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Mine were done on those brackets all approved by the building inspector, I questioned it and was told the wall supports the chimney breast not the brackets, they are just holding the bottom few bricks up.

Must be ok.
in a nutshell - this. the builder made contact with a bloke at building control, explained the quality of the brickwork, thickness of the wall and the circumstances of the neighbouring property, he said if that is all correct then the brackets will suffice (subject to inspection/sign off). so we will see.

the builder said he has been to properties where a removal was done in similar circumstances and no support was installed at all, in the past!

princeperch

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Wednesday 18th February 2015
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and before anyone asks, yes I did a party wall notice, yes they knew about the supports and yes they agreed to the work!

princeperch

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Wednesday 18th February 2015
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mk1fan said:
The support of a chimney is, ime, getting a bit hit and miss with BControl. Corbelling should be sufficient - and indeed used for many centuries without issue - but is unacceptable. Other departments allow London Brackets and concrete lintels. Others insist on steels and plate. Because of this, irregardless of what is specified, the Professional is left exposed to either under or over specifying.
local building control chap seemed (fairly) relaxed about it I think.

back in hertfordshire where my parents live, they were flatly told (a number of years ago) that the brackets would not be acceptable under any circumstances

princeperch

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Saturday 25th April 2015
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Anyway the chimney is dead and the new kitchen is in: