Another garage build thread, a smaller one though!
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I thought I'd compile a build thread of my dream garage, along with costs which should help others who are thinking of doing the same. It'd fit inside some of the garages on here 
Its not going to be as quick as some as I've some overseas work coming up, hopefully under 2 months from now though.
7m wide
6m deep
6x8" on most of the oak beams
oak sole plates
2x 2.5m wide doors on the front
4.9m to the ridge
2.1 to the eves
space to store stuff in the roof and build a room when cash allows.
One side will have a 4 post lift to lift a car into the roof space giving me more floor space when needed etc.
Hoping to do it all including all planning/building control fees for 17K ish.
Plans....
Making a hole, just over 40tonnes taken away, 14 tonnes of stone delivered.
Today building control signed off the raft slab....
Ground workers were awesome, arrived on time and left everything tidy. Did a neat job of cutting out the driveway.
I need to get my little black book out to give exact figures but so far...
Steels/Plastics/spacers £1000
Ground workers £1025(2 men and digger/tracked barrow/wacker plate/stil saw) 4 days.
40 tonnes away with grab £400
14 tonnes of stone £215
Hire of road pans £125
Building control fees £432
Planning £125
Steel tools and tieing wire £100
Its not going to be as quick as some as I've some overseas work coming up, hopefully under 2 months from now though.
7m wide
6m deep
6x8" on most of the oak beams
oak sole plates
2x 2.5m wide doors on the front
4.9m to the ridge
2.1 to the eves
space to store stuff in the roof and build a room when cash allows.
One side will have a 4 post lift to lift a car into the roof space giving me more floor space when needed etc.
Hoping to do it all including all planning/building control fees for 17K ish.
Plans....
Making a hole, just over 40tonnes taken away, 14 tonnes of stone delivered.
Today building control signed off the raft slab....
Ground workers were awesome, arrived on time and left everything tidy. Did a neat job of cutting out the driveway.
I need to get my little black book out to give exact figures but so far...
Steels/Plastics/spacers £1000
Ground workers £1025(2 men and digger/tracked barrow/wacker plate/stil saw) 4 days.
40 tonnes away with grab £400
14 tonnes of stone £215
Hire of road pans £125
Building control fees £432
Planning £125
Steel tools and tieing wire £100
Edited by jason61c on Thursday 5th March 22:32
The house doesn't have foundations as such so we thought it best not to dig a 1m trench next to the gable end! The cost of the steels is offset against the concrete/soil disposal/blocks etc, also I think its much stronger this way. It was quite amazing that on a level pitch we had over 40tonnes away! The raft if 450mm thick at the edges(square), 150mm in the middle. Its got 4 12mm rods top and bottom at the edges, plus all the links/pre formed spacers and joins. The middle is 2 sheets of 10mm a393. Concrete is going to add about £1.2k with a powerfloated finish.
Edited by jason61c on Friday 6th March 07:41
You can get a 150mmm wide brick for the oak frame to sit on but I decided I wanted a little more detail so ordered 680 of these...
http://www.brickhunter.com/ibstock-cheshire-weathe...
And 120 plinth stretchers(pl3.2), 4 corners(pl7.2) so I can get this sort of look/detail at the base.
I've gone for blue plinth stretchers, another £685 spent. I should also admit that I forgot to budget for this.
http://www.brickhunter.com/ibstock-cheshire-weathe...
And 120 plinth stretchers(pl3.2), 4 corners(pl7.2) so I can get this sort of look/detail at the base.
I've gone for blue plinth stretchers, another £685 spent. I should also admit that I forgot to budget for this.
Edited by jason61c on Saturday 7th March 08:25
Timmy40 said:
P, where did you get the plans drawn up? I assume as garages are quite standard you can get them on-line? I'm about to build a garage pretty much identical to what you are doing, so just wondering.
Monarch oak, There's some standard designs about however this was quite custom spec, from the length/width to the 'log store' size and height etc. Also its being made so I can fit the doors I need to behind the opening.
Costs to add, 13.5 cubic M of concrete £1200
Powerfloat hire £125
Powerfloat man £160
Bricklayer £360
You can see a bit of budget creep.
I've been lucky with the guys I've used, they all turn up at bang on 8am, don't piss about and do a good job. At first I thought the bricklayer would be 2 days, however it took us half a day to get it perfectly square on the slab, Diag measurements are 1mm out! Also the bricks due to their edge take a little longer to point inside and out.
Oh, I ordered about 400 bricks too many so you can save £200ish there!
Powerfloat hire £125
Powerfloat man £160
Bricklayer £360
You can see a bit of budget creep.
I've been lucky with the guys I've used, they all turn up at bang on 8am, don't piss about and do a good job. At first I thought the bricklayer would be 2 days, however it took us half a day to get it perfectly square on the slab, Diag measurements are 1mm out! Also the bricks due to their edge take a little longer to point inside and out.
Oh, I ordered about 400 bricks too many so you can save £200ish there!
Big bits going up fairly quickly.
I was worried I had made the wrong decision having a garage made this way. I'm not 1000% it was right. Had a bit of an error made with the height of the bit to the right of the garage regarding the roof pitch there, some more oak is on its way to us now. Also I splashed out on a lead DPC between the wall and oak. It was a do it once, try and do it right type thing.
Roofing slate and velux type windows also arrived today.
Today I've learned that slate is heavier than it looks, same for lead and oak.
I was worried I had made the wrong decision having a garage made this way. I'm not 1000% it was right. Had a bit of an error made with the height of the bit to the right of the garage regarding the roof pitch there, some more oak is on its way to us now. Also I splashed out on a lead DPC between the wall and oak. It was a do it once, try and do it right type thing.
Roofing slate and velux type windows also arrived today.
Today I've learned that slate is heavier than it looks, same for lead and oak.
r1flyguy1 said:
Looking great.
May I ask what is the roof sq/m size that you have the velux windows in the main roof & what size are the windows as I'm looking to purchase some for my extension just unsure of the size & yours look just right for the size of your roof
Cheers
There's 55sq m of roof ish in total, about 48 is on the top. May I ask what is the roof sq/m size that you have the velux windows in the main roof & what size are the windows as I'm looking to purchase some for my extension just unsure of the size & yours look just right for the size of your roof
Cheers
top windows are 66x118
Bottom are 55x78
r1flyguy1 said:
Wow, the picture is very deceiving in a good way , I've just calculated my rear extension roof is only 26 m/2 so half your size, I'm guessing the 780x980 velux windows I'm looking at might be a little too big
Did you use a specific formula for window size or just 'best guess'
Many thanks again
Is it an apex roof like mine? If not then its about the size of the front(lean to style roof)? I just picked a size based on the look I was going for, also think about how the shape of the velux affects the shape of the roof to the eye, as in wide can trick you into thinking its a wider roof etc., I've just calculated my rear extension roof is only 26 m/2 so half your size, I'm guessing the 780x980 velux windows I'm looking at might be a little too big Did you use a specific formula for window size or just 'best guess'
Many thanks again
I think on a house on a roof this size I'd have 3 in the size I've used.
cold thursday said:
Top work here, well done and thanks for the detailed posts.
Some of the pictures are deceiving as to the size of it.
The inside shot makes it look very big, almost barn like (I like that look),
yet one of the other outside panoramic shots make it look less big. Perhaps its the effect of the surrounding buildings on the scale.
I've had a look at the Monarch oak site that you mentioned.
Did you erect the oak kit yourself or have them do it for you.
It does feel like a barn inside, which is the feel I wanted. I think its a combination of the design/layout I wanted with the size of the surrounding buildings, my house directly behind it is about 6.5m from ground to eves, garage 5m. Its not overbearing to look at but has plenty of space inside at 42sq M. The extra height of the side add on really helps. If I had the cash I could put a room upstairs but I'm just going to board half for stowage and the rower.Some of the pictures are deceiving as to the size of it.
The inside shot makes it look very big, almost barn like (I like that look)
,yet one of the other outside panoramic shots make it look less big. Perhaps its the effect of the surrounding buildings on the scale.
I've had a look at the Monarch oak site that you mentioned.
Did you erect the oak kit yourself or have them do it for you.
Where are you based?
So to bump this thread..... Its nearly done!
Insulated and plastered......
Its built to take a proper 'upstairs', however for now I've just boarded half of it out for stowage.
Doors, went for SWS securoglide.
They're pretty awesome, very quiet, nicely made.
I've just finished all the plastering, put a coat of white paint on it. Had to move a bike out of next doors barn so its the first thing in here.
Put put a 3m run of cheap wickes units, along with worktop.
Just working out where to put sockets/lights etc for when I empty my stowage and get my garage stuff back
Insulated and plastered......
Its built to take a proper 'upstairs', however for now I've just boarded half of it out for stowage.
Doors, went for SWS securoglide.
They're pretty awesome, very quiet, nicely made.
I've just finished all the plastering, put a coat of white paint on it. Had to move a bike out of next doors barn so its the first thing in here.
Put put a 3m run of cheap wickes units, along with worktop.
Just working out where to put sockets/lights etc for when I empty my stowage and get my garage stuff back
Edited by jason61c on Saturday 11th July 21:31
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