How to move a 700kg pallet down stairs and across grass

How to move a 700kg pallet down stairs and across grass

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sidekickdmr

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Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Hi,

See this thread, http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I had my Pizza oven delivered the other day, but I was hoping for a hiab van with a mini crane, however it turned up on a tail lift van with a hand pallet truck.

It weighs about 700kg, and it had 4 lifting points, one in each corner. Its currently on a pallet too. It's also a little fragile, so "bumping" it down the stairs wont help.



So it either has to go down a flight of about 8 steps and then across the lawn, or be lifted down the hill and across to the resting point.

It will also need to come to a rest ontop of the base, so moving it at ground level is out.

I looked into hiring a spider crane, HSS wanted £1650 laugh

Help boxedin

sidekickdmr

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kiethton said:
Maybe some sheets of ply for the hill, plus an engine hoist and some chains? - should roll ok if on the ply with a few guys stopping it from rolling away from you?
Not such a bad idea, I had looked at engine hoists but didnt think of ply, I think it would need a chain hoist/winch to lower it down the hill though, wouldnt want it to roll away from me doing it by hand, its a very steep hill lol

Thanks!

BenWRXSEi said:
Or, find a mate with a towbar and rent a trailer with a long winch to lower it down the slope?
doesnt help me move it or lift it once at the bottom of the hill though

V8A*ndy said:
Will one of these do the job?

If so local builders yard and drop the driver a few quid.
Issue is, aaccess is very tight, I had wicks delivery on the same day and their puny hiab lorry wouldnt fit around the corner on my drive.

sidekickdmr

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Anothewr idea I've just come up with

A telehandler and a chain hoist?



The telehandler can have the chain hoist attached to it and then extend out over the drop location, chain hoist lowers it down?


sidekickdmr

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V8RX7 said:
Would you get a 3T excavator through ?

My 1.7T machine can lift circa 600kg
Through where?

I've had 1.5 ton down the stairs, but wouldnt lift 700kg

I've had a 3ton where the pizza oven is (up top), but the arm wouldnt reach down/over far enough

and I've had a full size 8 ton JCB up top too, but again dont think the reach/drop will be sufficiant?

sidekickdmr

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Squishey said:
How about:

1. Board the steps and route to where the oven needs to go
2. Put the pallet on a pallet truck
3. Face the pallet truck down the hill (handle facing up the slope)
4. Put a couple of slings through the lifting eyes on the oven on the handle side of the pallet truck
5. Attach the slings to a winch
6. Attach the winch to the towing eye of a suitably heavy vehicle
7. Winch oven down the slope
8. Push the oven to where it needs to be?

A bit Heath Robinson but should work!
Thats pretty much my best "DIY" option at the moment, but with a engine hoist and not a pallet truck otherwise I've still no way to lift it onto the base at the bottom.

would cost me £110 for the engine hoist

(https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Hydraulic-Folding-Engine-Wheels/dp/B00LEO3CMO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1471376931&sr=8-4&keywords=engine+hoist)

£20 for the chain hoist/winch (attached to my landy)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-2-Ton-Cable-Pull...

and probally £20 for some ply.


sidekickdmr

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The Spruce goose said:
Quad bike or 4x4 and some off road dollies or planks to slide with some oil/grease on them.
Still not help with the the stairs or lifting it onto the base unfortunately

I'll try and get some pics of the site together now, 2 mins

sidekickdmr

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Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Top of the stairs, the pizza oven is behind where this photo was taken, on the gravel driveway



Bottom o de stairs



Around the corner into the lawn, over more gravel



Over the lawn into the far left corner (base yet to be finished)



That's the "ground" way, as you can see on the last pic the driveway runs above and to the side of its final resting place, so a crane/aerial lift would just go straight over the edge and down, but would need to reach and drop.

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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bristolbaron said:
The most obvious option seems to be a trampoline at the bottom of the slope, pizza oven launches in the air, once it's flipped the right way up set off a parachute so it lands safely in place?

Genius, problem solved! laugh

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Piersman2 said:
Zeus and fat Apollo? smile
Assuming you mean the Greek dogs/gods then yes it is :-)

hidetheelephants said:
You want a tracked flatbed power barrow like this.
Don't know how it would cope with stairs and also don't know how it would get onto the base still though

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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SpeckledJim said:
ETA: I LOVE that this is a question without an answer, yet the oven is already bought, paid for, and sitting in the way on your drive! Have you admitted to your good lady that as yet you haven't a clue about Phase II?
Absolutely 100% not

hidetheelephants said:
Rosscow said:
Just hire a suitable crane and driver, it might cost a few quid but you won't kill anyone and you won's break anything!
A bit boring and the OP seems reluctant to splash out; if there's a hire firm locally he might get it done for £300-400.
Already booked a local crane company to come and have a look later, seemed like a nice guy, lets hope the cost is reasonable.

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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To be fair, I was told it would arrive on a Hiab......

Which would have at least been able to get it at garden level as further down its less steep/tall.

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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The couriers ticket on the pallet states 700kg, but perhaps it is lighter.

Not having to get a crane out would be bloody handy.

Next issue, I dont know if a scaffold pole would fit through the eyelets.

Why is nothing simple frown

sidekickdmr

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Right, thats the local rugby club contacted in exchange for beer vouchers and a charity donation.

Lets see what they say

sidekickdmr

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Thursday 18th August 2016
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Well the date and time have been set, some may call it D-Day

Monday the 29th, 4PM me and 5 other lads, some straps, some wood, some beer, and if sucussfull, perhaps even a pizza or two afterwards.

If anyone want to come help/watch/film feel free!














  • adds dominos and 999 to speed-dial

sidekickdmr

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Saturday 27th August 2016
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I might just keep it up here, much easier


sidekickdmr

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Monday 29th August 2016
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Don't know what all the fuss was about cool


We towed it behind the Landy down the drive



Pushed it along planks to the top of the stairs and then used the Landy to lower it down on planks









Then pushed it along planks the length of the garden





Next to its final resting place, now time for the hard bit



Rocked it side to side, placing a block under it each time





Then once at the same level as the base, shuffled it along onto its base



Easy tongue out






lets not mention the fact it took 4 hours, and broke 6 men to the point of giving up, and exploded 3 fingertips boxedin