The RISKS of being a Principle Contractor and Client.....
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Didn't 'misunderstand the question' at all, simply saying that if you haven't got the experience or you take on too big a project without that experience, you can get into serious problems.
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
But hey what do I know, go on a quick CDM course and good luck
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
But hey what do I know, go on a quick CDM course and good luck
bobo said:
Looks like a big saving on a small development i want to build as opposed to doing it D&B.
What are this risks?
Many thanks
The risks are Jail. What are this risks?
Many thanks
The Client must appoint a competent Principal Designer and Principal Contractor. If you appoint yourself and something goes wrong that decision is going to be very difficult to justify if it was purely based on cost savings.
Are you competent enough to perform the duties listed here:
https://www.aisolutions.co.uk/Community/Knowledge/...
How could you prove competence in court if that became necessary? Can you show experience and professional knowledge in this area?
Busa mav said:
Cerbhd said:
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
That is naieve to say the least.First off, I'm in a bit of a mood - and I realise I will come across as a total dick.
There is no acop to follow - there is HSE guidance L153. Google it, it's free to download. Your duties will be listed there.
A CDM course will give you an overview of CDM.
I'd argue that since you are asking this question - that itself means you probably aren't competent to take on that role.
In practical terms, you run the risk of anything from the HSE inspector deciding you haven't got enough bog roll and charging ~£150/hour for the privilege, right up to the other end of the scale, jail.
I suspect that the initial saving will be wiped out by the time you pay for a consultant to prepare your CPP, RAMS, and get site set up.
How this affects your finance, D&B contract and insurances, I wouldn't know.
There is no acop to follow - there is HSE guidance L153. Google it, it's free to download. Your duties will be listed there.
A CDM course will give you an overview of CDM.
I'd argue that since you are asking this question - that itself means you probably aren't competent to take on that role.
In practical terms, you run the risk of anything from the HSE inspector deciding you haven't got enough bog roll and charging ~£150/hour for the privilege, right up to the other end of the scale, jail.
I suspect that the initial saving will be wiped out by the time you pay for a consultant to prepare your CPP, RAMS, and get site set up.
How this affects your finance, D&B contract and insurances, I wouldn't know.
WindyMills said:
I'd argue that since you are asking this question - that itself means you probably aren't competent to take on that role.
This all day long.Was going to say the exact same thing, but as PH is full of diyers (exceptions know who they are) that think they know the industry inside out...I couldn't be arsed.
Principal designer
Pre construction info
CPP
RAM's
Fire Plan
The list is endless, and a minefield for a novice.
Have a free download of the regs and give them a read.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l153.htm
Pre construction info
CPP
RAM's
Fire Plan
The list is endless, and a minefield for a novice.
Have a free download of the regs and give them a read.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l153.htm
Cerbhd said:
Busa mav said:
Cerbhd said:
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
That is naieve to say the least.Cerbhd said:
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
The OP has no experience and needs to understand what can happen, particularly in the domestic build market.In a text book / desk bound world you can have all the measures you can dream of in place but you can't teach or buy common sense.
Busa mav said:
Cerbhd said:
Busa mav said:
Cerbhd said:
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
That is naieve to say the least.Cerbhd said:
Also if you have the experience you wouldn't need to 'pray there isn't an accident on site' as you will take measures to prevent it.
The OP has no experience and needs to understand what can happen, particularly in the domestic build market.In a text book / desk bound world you can have all the measures you can dream of in place but you can't teach or buy common sense.
The op has no experience. is exactly what I've been saying since the beginning.
As for the text book comment, this is also what I have been saying, common sense comes from experience.
You can't prevent a risk, all you can do is reduce a risk. That's what risk assessment is all about.
I am with all of the posters who say "If you have to ask the question then you should not be doing it yourself"
Construction sites are very dangerous places, even the companies with the best processes have accidents/incidents. It makes a lot of sense to pass the risk onto an expert.
As for the metaphor above using a school with no teachers, you need to add in that all of the children are carrying lethal weapons and running around whilst wearing blindfolds"
I am with all of the posters who say "If you have to ask the question then you should not be doing it yourself"
Construction sites are very dangerous places, even the companies with the best processes have accidents/incidents. It makes a lot of sense to pass the risk onto an expert.
As for the metaphor above using a school with no teachers, you need to add in that all of the children are carrying lethal weapons and running around whilst wearing blindfolds"
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