Neighbour's fence down - refusing to replace

Neighbour's fence down - refusing to replace

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Joe5y

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Afternoon PH,

Our neighbour's fence came down in the wind yesterday. No biggy, it happens.
When it fell it also broke 2x slate pots and a ceramic pot of ours (c£100.00) - not great but again, act of god (don't believe in god!).
However, the neighbour has said that he "hasn't the money to repair and therefore won't be doing so anytime soon if at all".

Now, I own a landscaping company and could do it for c£350 (materials only) and would take a day but obviously don't want to pay for something that isn't mine.

What should I do?

Joe5y

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Sheets Tabuer said:
He says he hasn't got the money, I really don't see what you can do.
True dat!

Picture for reference



Neighbour is a bit of a sausage.

Option E: offer to do it and set him up on my company payment plan!

Joe5y

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Joe5y said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
He says he hasn't got the money, I really don't see what you can do.
True dat!

Picture for reference



Neighbour is a bit of a sausage.

Option E: offer to do it and set him up on my company payment plan!
For clarity, 4 posts are down

Joe5y

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Sheepshanks said:
Joe5y said:
For clarity, 4 posts are down
£350 for materials (presumeably "trade" to some extent) seems a bit OTT?
4 post are broken. 1 is very wonky. Postcrete for each post. Total = £160.
Wall baton & fixings = £15.
3 panels are broken. 2 split. 5 panels = £145.
Fixings = £5.
Gravel boards = £35.

Total £360.00.

Joe5y

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Sheets Tabuer said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Doesn't he have to maintain his fence?
You'd be surprised but no, he doesn't even have to have one.
Deeds state that he (and I on my own) have to "maintain a sufficient boundary whether it be hedge, fence or wall".

Joe5y

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DapperDanMan said:
Is it not salvageable? Can you and your neighbour do some kind of temporary repair until such a time as they have the money? Use it as a way to get to know your neighbour better.
2 posts have snapped clean off and 2 are supported by some rope his side. 3 panels are in more bits than are usable. 2 gravel boards are in 4 halves.

Joe5y

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CambsBill said:
OP, are you sure it's his fence? I only ask because I thought the general rule was that you own the fence on the left as you look down the garden.

Emphasis on 'general' of course, there's no absolute regulation.
Yes, checked deeds etc as we were unsure when discussing.

Joe5y

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Piersman2 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Can't you put the old fence back in place with a few joining flat plates and screws?

£10 + 15mins = privacy.
This.

Not sure where you get £350 for materials (plus day rate!) from when the panels look perfectly re-usable. Possibly a couple of new posts from Wickes, can't be more than £50 in materials.

When I've wanted to replace/repair fence panels around my garden I've just done it myself, and the neighbours have always been grateful. But then I guess I'm just the kind of person that doesn't try and profit from a neighbour's misfortune.

Frankly, I'm not surprised your neighbour told you to jog on, I'd have told you I was going to leave it like that as well, if only to wind you up! laugh
Luckily neither am I the sort of person to profit from other misfortune. Simply that's cost to replace the entire fence which he agrees needs doing. As stated above, more than superficial damage.

Joe5y

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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Joe5y said:
Sheepshanks said:
Joe5y said:
For clarity, 4 posts are down
£350 for materials (presumeably "trade" to some extent) seems a bit OTT?
4 post are broken. 1 is very wonky. Postcrete for each post. Total = £160. 10.99x4 7' £44 + 25 for postcrete
Wall baton & fixings = £15. ok ish
3 panels are broken. 2 split. 5 panels = £145. 20x5 6ft £100
Fixings = £5.
Gravel boards = £35. 12.99 each concrete 17.99 for wood x4

Total £360.00.
total 201.99
Whilst I could quote for B&Q specials and the similar there are some flaws in your logic.

Previous posts were 125mm so will need replacing with the same or a gap will form at either end. You've priced the incorrect size in both height and width unless you plan on having 6" in the ground to support it all? Posts = £18.00ea

Panels are tantalized and pressure treated close board prefab panels @£28.99 from the supplier they were originally purchased from £144.95.

Gravelboards @ £7ea for 2x6 @6ft.


Joe5y

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Sheets Tabuer said:
motco said:
Joe5y said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Doesn't he have to maintain his fence?
You'd be surprised but no, he doesn't even have to have one.
Deeds state that he (and I on my own) have to "maintain a sufficient boundary whether it be hedge, fence or wall".
My last house covenants dictated a fence that was stock-proof along my side boundary and across the rear.
Many years ago I posted on here about a neighbour that wanted to replace my 3 foot brick wall boundary with a 6 foot fence, I consistently refused then luckily when I moved out for a few months the wind blew it over (so she said) and she replaced it with a 6 foot fence.

After seeking legal advice I found the part where it says you must maintain a boundary on your deeds could be satisfied by a piece of string.


I think deeds can often differ

Joe5y

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motco said:
Joe5y said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Doesn't he have to maintain his fence?
You'd be surprised but no, he doesn't even have to have one.
Deeds state that he (and I on my own) have to "maintain a sufficient boundary whether it be hedge, fence or wall".
My last house covenants dictated a fence that was stock-proof along my side boundary and across the rear.
Ours state right only as left is neighbour's and rear is the opposite / reward facing neighbour's.

Joe5y

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Mgd_uk said:
Can you put up your own fence on your side and let him worry about his side?
Yes but far from keen.

Joe5y

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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Threads. You win some. You lose some. laugh

The neighbour has agreed the material cost which actually worked out to be £328.00 but he'll need to pay over 3months. This isn't an issue for me as I have 90 day payments terms with my supplier. I've agreed to install it FOC and I can have the faced side.

Joe5y

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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The cash flow issue maybe down to the 2 story extension he's just completed.

As a side note, the garden isn't kept. He cut the grass once last year and clearly isn't a priority or a space that he enjoys using. Unfair to post pictures but it's mainly used for storage of random things and mountain bikes etc.

The broken panels and post are currently still in my garden.