Dogs still fighting.
Discussion
Hi All, I posted back in January that at around 6 months old our two (new) dogs had started fighting.
My Daughter had a hospital visit due to a bite while trying to separate them and then I too ended up with a nasty bite on my leg.
Yes, we are aware not to get in between them during the action but things can go wrong bla bla bla.
We employed a very skilled dog trainer who has made significant improvements in both of the dogs behavior and also our own skills.
Things have been relatively quiet the since the 'Christmas showdown' but the last three weeks its all kicked off again.
Cant get hold of the dog trainer, not answering mobile etc.
One problem seems to be that the Huskey/Malmute likes eating garden vegetation but then gets an upset stomach which results in him being short tempered.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, ignores the warnings and continues with his "lets play" attitude until the H/M kicks off.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, is then up for the fight with passion.
We've tried muzzles etc., but H/M is a bit of an Harry Houdini when it comes to these.
Reaching a point of looking to re-home one of them
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My Daughter had a hospital visit due to a bite while trying to separate them and then I too ended up with a nasty bite on my leg.
Yes, we are aware not to get in between them during the action but things can go wrong bla bla bla.
We employed a very skilled dog trainer who has made significant improvements in both of the dogs behavior and also our own skills.
Things have been relatively quiet the since the 'Christmas showdown' but the last three weeks its all kicked off again.
Cant get hold of the dog trainer, not answering mobile etc.
One problem seems to be that the Huskey/Malmute likes eating garden vegetation but then gets an upset stomach which results in him being short tempered.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, ignores the warnings and continues with his "lets play" attitude until the H/M kicks off.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, is then up for the fight with passion.
We've tried muzzles etc., but H/M is a bit of an Harry Houdini when it comes to these.
Reaching a point of looking to re-home one of them
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Hi Gary, that's very much appreciated.
We really don't want to let him go but its good to know the right place if it comes down to it.
Its a bit frustrating at the moment.
I would call George a typical Bulldog with people but he had a go at our Cavalier King Charles last week ???
We are talking 'real pansy dog' who George absolutely slammed. Just glad he didn't get his teeth in.
Poor old Spaniel walk around with a dead leg for a couple of hours afterwards.
Cheers,
Tony.
We really don't want to let him go but its good to know the right place if it comes down to it.
Its a bit frustrating at the moment.
I would call George a typical Bulldog with people but he had a go at our Cavalier King Charles last week ???
We are talking 'real pansy dog' who George absolutely slammed. Just glad he didn't get his teeth in.
Poor old Spaniel walk around with a dead leg for a couple of hours afterwards.
Cheers,
Tony.
Hi Chaps,
Unfortunately I work away so have not been in attendance with the trainer.
My Wife and my daughter have worked wiith him at home and at his classes.
He started off with getting them to share which went well.
Later it was discovered that the Husk/Mal had a problem and would react when he felt trapped in a corner by the Bulldog so worked on that.
My daughter learned a lot with regard control and leadership etc. but about 6 months ago the trainer disappeared ? shut up shop, not answering mobile, owes me prepaid moneys etc.
Which was about the time when my leg got in the way during their rumble in the Christmas jungle.
It was very clear at the time that while the H/M was on the edge of control and responded to commands to stop, the Bulldog had the red mist and it took me a while to get him off my leg.
Then completely apologetic, "sorry, didn't know it was your leg, I thought it was his" lick, lick, lick.
It appears last nights episode was that but worse, with both going at it hell for leather.
We have never had a problem like this before and I don't want it now.
Our son and his family have just moved back up to Cheshire with our one year old Grandson.
I don't want this to become an issue regarding visiting.
My son raised an eyebrow or two last year when I got bitten.
This has been on and off for nearly 12 months now and no amount of training has removed the problem.
Yes, we could fine another trainer but I'm not willing to have this behavior for another 12 months.
As I've said before, the Bulldog, for me, is a typical Bulldog. I'm sure he would be fine as an only dog. The same for the H/M. Neither have ever shown any aggression to my, Wife, my daughter or myself.
PS: My leg still hurts.
Unfortunately I work away so have not been in attendance with the trainer.
My Wife and my daughter have worked wiith him at home and at his classes.
He started off with getting them to share which went well.
Later it was discovered that the Husk/Mal had a problem and would react when he felt trapped in a corner by the Bulldog so worked on that.
My daughter learned a lot with regard control and leadership etc. but about 6 months ago the trainer disappeared ? shut up shop, not answering mobile, owes me prepaid moneys etc.
Which was about the time when my leg got in the way during their rumble in the Christmas jungle.
It was very clear at the time that while the H/M was on the edge of control and responded to commands to stop, the Bulldog had the red mist and it took me a while to get him off my leg.
Then completely apologetic, "sorry, didn't know it was your leg, I thought it was his" lick, lick, lick.
It appears last nights episode was that but worse, with both going at it hell for leather.
We have never had a problem like this before and I don't want it now.
Our son and his family have just moved back up to Cheshire with our one year old Grandson.
I don't want this to become an issue regarding visiting.
My son raised an eyebrow or two last year when I got bitten.
This has been on and off for nearly 12 months now and no amount of training has removed the problem.
Yes, we could fine another trainer but I'm not willing to have this behavior for another 12 months.
As I've said before, the Bulldog, for me, is a typical Bulldog. I'm sure he would be fine as an only dog. The same for the H/M. Neither have ever shown any aggression to my, Wife, my daughter or myself.
PS: My leg still hurts.
ali_kat said:
So you have 3 male dogs?
Husky/Malmaute - @10/12 months
Bulldog - 2 weeks younger than the H/M
King Charles - age? leader of the pack
From reading the threads, why would it be the Bulldog you get rid of? Because he's the one that bit? You know he's going to have a hard time getting re-homed because of that?
No, because of the second poster above.Husky/Malmaute - @10/12 months
Bulldog - 2 weeks younger than the H/M
King Charles - age? leader of the pack
From reading the threads, why would it be the Bulldog you get rid of? Because he's the one that bit? You know he's going to have a hard time getting re-homed because of that?
I really love both dogs.
George is our third Bulldog and love the bread. As I said he, for me, is a typical Bulldog. Very much reminds me of my last, Moses, who past in March 2004.
I have to draw a line. Maybe both will go but the M/H is my daughters. We got him as a therapy dog for her.
By the by, the CKCS, Charlie is 11 and is going down hill. He's deaf, losing eyes sight and started to have seizures.
George already sorted Charlie out.
dazco said:
I had two Bullmastiffs that started fighting on a beach on Mull.
All I could do was grab both their collars and try and hold them apart, which put my head inches away from their snarling mouths.
Very scary.
They had a couple of fights but they always seemed to be short and intense. One was more or less disabled and oddly she usually got the upper hand, if i kicked (no other option) her away from the scrap then it would end there and then.
I have started posting in here because I was thinking of getting another dog, after not having one for about four years, and was considering a Rotty or a GSD. I have always fancied a Bulldog though, but could never justify the large cost, so if you want a good home for him to go to then he would be loved to bits here.
Hi dazco,All I could do was grab both their collars and try and hold them apart, which put my head inches away from their snarling mouths.
Very scary.
They had a couple of fights but they always seemed to be short and intense. One was more or less disabled and oddly she usually got the upper hand, if i kicked (no other option) her away from the scrap then it would end there and then.
I have started posting in here because I was thinking of getting another dog, after not having one for about four years, and was considering a Rotty or a GSD. I have always fancied a Bulldog though, but could never justify the large cost, so if you want a good home for him to go to then he would be loved to bits here.
you have mail.
Cheers,
Tony.
Mexican cuties said:
Has he now got a happy home??
George is being re-homed with a friend, locally, from Monday.Were glad he will still be local and we'll get to see him regularly.
About 20 years ago we had our Bulldog b
h Bonny stolen and never saw her again.It often pops into my head as to what happened to her and how she was treated
Just to add, my heart felt thanks you to all you folks on here.
This was a very painful decision but it has been so very good to have you guys providing advise and guidance.
The friend that is having George is already used to some of his antics.
Steve is a builder by trade and has done a number of jobs at my home.
He is already used to George running off with work tools in that mighty mouth of his,
Again, thank you very much.
This was a very painful decision but it has been so very good to have you guys providing advise and guidance.
The friend that is having George is already used to some of his antics.
Steve is a builder by trade and has done a number of jobs at my home.
He is already used to George running off with work tools in that mighty mouth of his,
Again, thank you very much.
The decision was made a bit easier by how nasty this last fight has been.
They go 6 or 7 weeks as best friends, playing with each other, sleeping against each other etc and then BANG.
I cant wait until one of them gets seriously injured,eye or something.
The fact that a George is going to a friend has added to the ease of the decision.
The biggest heart ache is that, going from previous experience, George is such a typical wouldn't hurt a fly gentle, clumsy, bulldozer of a Bulldog and would have been great on his own.
A quick story of our last Bulldog, Moses, as an example of the above description.
On the gentle side, we used to keep ducks and one day on returning home late dusk, we quickly realized a fox had taken several
One of the larger (breed) ducks had flown in to a penned off are in the garden where we used to keep Moses our Bulldog.
When we came out, Moses had the duck by the neck in his mouth and immediately let it go when we arrived. He had simply held it until we got back and she was totally unharmed
Then on the clumsy oaf side, as our cat walked through the penned off are, Mosses, playing hide and seek with the cat, jumped off the roof of the cat kennel directly onto the poor car, totally flattening her and braking one of her legs, all in good fun and no harm meant !!!
I miss Moses and I'm going to miss George.
To cheer myself up, my TVR Tuscan is due back from Blackpool in two weeks after a re-trim and respray then its off to Spain for four weeks
They go 6 or 7 weeks as best friends, playing with each other, sleeping against each other etc and then BANG.
I cant wait until one of them gets seriously injured,eye or something.
The fact that a George is going to a friend has added to the ease of the decision.
The biggest heart ache is that, going from previous experience, George is such a typical wouldn't hurt a fly gentle, clumsy, bulldozer of a Bulldog and would have been great on his own.
A quick story of our last Bulldog, Moses, as an example of the above description.
On the gentle side, we used to keep ducks and one day on returning home late dusk, we quickly realized a fox had taken several
One of the larger (breed) ducks had flown in to a penned off are in the garden where we used to keep Moses our Bulldog.
When we came out, Moses had the duck by the neck in his mouth and immediately let it go when we arrived. He had simply held it until we got back and she was totally unharmed
Then on the clumsy oaf side, as our cat walked through the penned off are, Mosses, playing hide and seek with the cat, jumped off the roof of the cat kennel directly onto the poor car, totally flattening her and braking one of her legs, all in good fun and no harm meant !!!
I miss Moses and I'm going to miss George.To cheer myself up, my TVR Tuscan is due back from Blackpool in two weeks after a re-trim and respray then its off to Spain for four weeks
Edited by so called on Friday 5th June 12:31
bexVN said:
Why did you decide on George over your other dog, just out of interest.
It was because of the point I made in a previous post, "the H/M was on the edge of control and responded to commands to stop fighting, the Bulldog had the red mist and was the fighting machine.Also that we got the Huskey Malamute as a therapy dog for our daughter before we bought the Bulldog.
She is feeling pretty bad about the situation right.
Mexican cuties said:
Tuscan, you lucky thing used to have a speed six in crystal topaz as my every day car, never had so many looks and amazing car
Had to have the engine done and running it in drove me nuts, what was wrong with yours?
Sorry Mexican cuties, only just spotted your question.Had to have the engine done and running it in drove me nuts, what was wrong with yours?
My Tuscan was up in Blackpool for a respray and retrim.
We're in Spain with her right now soaking up the sun.
On an update on George the Bulldog, Steve our friend and his family adore George.
They have sent us several video's and photo's of him enjoying his new family.
Cheers,
Tony.
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