Cat Vs. Dog

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EnthusiastOwned

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Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I'm a little shocked and miffed if i'm honest.

I was walking my dog this morning (A Staffordshire Bull Terrier, for what it's worth) on lead, I see a cat sat on a door step of a house I walk by (with a healthy drive), the dog didn't see it so I hush him along, i'm probably 2-3 houses up and I hear this hiss, I turn around; as does the dog and the cat just attacked. I tried to drag the dog away, but the cat just followed pawing. I tried to get in between the cat and dog, the cat's not phased and then goes for me. I cross the road, whilst fighting/dragging a terrified dog all while this skitzo cat is going for the dog. Crazy.

The cat finally relents as i'm about 10 houses away. When I'm well up the road I check the dog and his face is cut and bleeding. Nothing serious but some very close to his eye (which is concerning should this happen again).

What should I do from here? Report it, contact the owners (I think I know which house it is).

Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Thursday 2nd March 09:22

EnthusiastOwned

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Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
I did give the cat a gentle push-kick, but I think anything short of a serious punt was fruitless.

I'm more concerned about it happening again, the same cat followed me and the dog up the road a few months back (just stalked us - which I remembered thinking at the time "what the fk is wrong with this cat?" laugh).

Next time I don't think i'll restrain the dog as it just made things worse for everyone apart from the cat, the issue is if my dog felt that way inclined; the cat wouldn't come out too well. I feel guilty that my restraining of the dog is what caused his injury (he couldn't move out of the way). Why should I risk injury to my dog or myself for some deranged animal? I'm just very aware if it was the other way around the dog will be under some very serious scrutiny.

I've raised it with the local authority - More so if it does happen again and my (or someone elses) dog comes out trumps, it's on file that the cat's a dick. rolleyes

EnthusiastOwned

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Prof Prolapse said:
Ace-T said:
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
I'm only advocating protecting yourself and your pet, you have a right to use proportionate response. Giving it a kick won't necessarily result in any serious injury, they're not that fragile, and I'm not suggesting stamping it to death for goodness sake.

You can shout, flap your arms, and wave your water pistol around if you like however.
I did shout, stamp, make noises - but the cat was having non of it. It was in serious attack mode. Imagine walking around with a water pistol at the ready, i'll look like a right nutter! laugh

I think I'll give a knock and have a friendly chat, I am more concerned about the cat than the dog as next time it might not be so pretty. I'm sure they owner would rather have a knock to discuss rather than a knock to show them a mauled/dead cat.

227bhp said:
A cat taking on a Staffie and winning?

Do it again and film it, i'd pay good money to see that!
He's a massive softie and he's been sulking all morning feeling sorry for himself. The concern is he only takes so much st until he stands his ground, next time I imagine him having a pop back and since he chomps through lamb vertebrae for fun I don't have much hope for the cat.

thebraketester said:
Which type of cat was it? Here is a poster to help jog your memory.

Its was the ginger , top row, 3rd from left laugh

EnthusiastOwned

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Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Yipper said:
Ace-T said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
Yes, a 6ft / 80kg man (or whatever) kicking a 1ft / 4kg cat is a disturbingly aggressive response to a house pet. Even a mad, feral cat will run away instantly if you stamp the ground, wave arms, shout loud and rush toward it. Plenty of nonviolent ways to disperse the cat. When you're ~20 times bigger and stronger, you don't need violence to win.

The OP really should have been more careful and mindful. Everyone knows cats and dogs fight. They are biologically primed to defend their (and their owner's) territory. They are only doing their job. Keep a safer distance and closer eye when passing next time.
I don't really know what more I could have done or can do. Avoiding the area is not possible, the house is right on the corner next to the road up to our local farm. I saw the cat sat on the doorstep, down a long drive, the dog didn't so I hushed the dog up the road so he didn't see the cat. I was 2-3 houses past then the cat appeared; it must have literally bolted up the drive to us looking for a fight. I'm very mindful of cats and furry animals (my dog loves squirrels).


clio007 said:
Sounds like your dog is abit of a pussy to be honestbiggrin
He is and I take that as a compliment. smile

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Friday 3rd March 2017
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bexVN said:
Yep cats can be psychotic at times and very little will deter them once in that mode, I know!!

Who knows what triggered this cats behaviour today, maybe on edge from an earloer run in, who knows, all I know is I do not blame the OP or his poor dog this was purely on the cat!!!

Kicking however is not an option. They are vulnerable to internal injury/hernia's if a kick is dealt in the wrong way (doesn't have to be hefty either) a shove would be more appropriate.

OP keep an eye on the wounds, hopefully superficial but cat scratches can turn nasty, if not healing on next 48hrs get them checked.

A chat to the owner sounds a good idea. You can only try. They are not legally obliged as a dog owner would be but hopefully they will tryand see if it can be avoided on future.

Hope your poor boy feels better tomorrow.
Thanks for the advice/kind words.

He's fine and is a real tough dog (physical wise), he's just sulking and milking it - I think it's the shame of getting beat up by a cat. laugh
He's been on high alert though, which is concerning - He learns very quick when it comes to taking st off people/other animals but he doesn't discriminate (i.e. other cat's are fine, this specific one is in trouble).

I had a good look at him yesterday/this morning and they are more puncture wounds than scratches and hard to see under his fur - the cats swatted him with his claws so his face was covered in lots of red dots. He was more bothered by the salted water I used to clean the blood up with.

It's the second time this cat's shown this behaviour - A few months back it followed me and the dog up the road for a few minutes (getting too close for comfort). Today I've been a very similar route but purposefully made sure I was across the road, the cat was there and it ran through the hedge to the neighbours drive then sat and hissed. It explains how it got to me so quickly yesterday and it's definitely a territorial thing. The issue is it's my regular walk and the only way of avoiding the house/that side of the street is either crossing x3 roads in a very short space or to avoid the area completely a good 5-10 minute detour. I'm a bit stubborn so i'm not going to be dictated by an an asshole cat. biggrin

I'm waiting a few days for the local authority to get back to me then, subject to the response I'll go see the owner.

On another note, i'm 99.9% sure I know which house it belongs to, I've looked at the house on streetview and the very cat's on the drive!!

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Sunday 19th March 2017
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As an update to this thread,

I've only come across the cat once more, I noticed it sat on the drive and I crossed with the dog immediately; my Mrs who was with me at the time was in a world of her own and kept on walking. I noticed the cat dart through the hedge to next door and proper his at my Mrs where she duly crapped herself and ran across to me.

I've not seen it since, or heard back from the council either. I have spoken to a few other dog owners in the area and it appears they've all had a run in and know the psycho cat well. One being a huge, yet young rottweiler who's owner says the cat followed them up the road hissing (similar to my first encounter). I give the cat a few months until it gets eaten laugh